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Oct 8, 2013

2013 Champion Tier List - Solo Queue - Patch 3.12 Updated October Update

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SEASON 3 - PATCH 3.12  SOLO QUEUE TIER LIST

This List has been updated, and new versions are available via this link

Preface Chatter
After the championships, a lot of high level champions were brought out to play, and although many of them are more suitable for team-play, it certainly gives some food for thought. Patch 3.12 is still early, so there may be another update relatively soon.

Patch Summary:
Buffs: Cassiopeia, Ryze
Nerfs: Thresh, Phage, Trinity Force, Teemo, Yorick (Mushrooms + Ghouls give gold now)
Tweaks: Katarina, Lucian, Olaf, Shen,

Summary of Changes:
  • Moved around some champs based on world championships and Patch 3.12 changes
  • Added support annie, jungle wukong, top lane karma, top morde
  • Added some simple descriptions to each tier
  • Modified underplayed champs from italics to italics + underline
  • [EDIT] : Late move on Gragas
The Tier List

God Tier [Very Strong]: 
Mid-Lane GodsAhri, Kassadin, Fizz, Zed, Orianna, Lux
Jungle GodsRammus, Amumu, Jarvan IV, Zac, Sejuani, Fiddlesticks, Vi
AD GodsCorki, Caitlyn, Twitch,
Top Lane GodsJax, Tryndamere, Singed, Wukong,  Renekton
Support Gods:  Sona, Zyra, Janna, Thresh

Tier 1 [Really Strong]:
Mid-LaneMalzahar, Kayle, Zyra, Kennen, Diana, Swain, Annie, Nidalee, Twisted Fate, Wukong, Brand, Gragas, Lissandra, Morgana, Syndra, Kha'Zix, Corki
JungleElise, Nocturne, Aatrox, Nasus, Evelynn, Hecarim, Cho'Gath, Nautilus, Lee Sin, Volibear, Maokai,
AD CarryVayne, Draven, Tristana, Varus, Graves, Ezreal, Miss Fortune, Kog'Maw, Ashe, Quinn
Top Lane: Darius, Aatrox, Nasus, Yorick, Kennen, Jayce, Jarvan IV, Elise, Kayle, Irelia, Zac, Riven, Lee Sin, Udyr, Nidalee,
Support: Nami, Leona, Blitzcrank, Fiddlesticks

Tier 2 [Balanced]:
Mid-LaneJayce, Elise, Mordekaiser, Vladimir, Anivia, Viktor, Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Xerath, Katarina, Evelynn, Karthus, Ryze, Akali, Talon, Galio,
JungleShyvana, Udyr, Shaco, Nunu, Kha'Zix, Master Yi, Warwick, Malphite, Wukong, Leona, Trundle, Xin Zhao, Rengar, Skarner, Diana, Zed
AD Carry:  Lucian, Sivir
Top Lane: Rumble, Shen, Teemo, Fiora, Rengar, Akali, Quinn, Vi, Swain, Kha'Zix, Pantheon, Vladimir,  Gangplank, Cho'gath, Volibear, Garen, Zed, Malphite, Master Yi
Support: Lulu, Taric, Alistar, Soraka, Annie

Tier 3 [Needs Higher Skill/Knowledge Than Usual]:
Mid-LanePantheon, Veigar, Sion, Leblanc, Karma, Ziggs, Fiddlesticks
JungleFiora, Riven, Pantheon, Dr. Mundo, Jax, Kayle, Darius, Olaf
AD Carry:
Top Lane: Mordekaiser, Shyvana, Warwick, Karma, Xin Zhao, Ryze, Nunu, Galio, Talon, Trundle, Dr. Mundo, Olaf, Poppy
Support: Morgana, Nunu, Lux, Nautilus, Shen, Nidalee

Tier 4 [Difficult to Win]:
Mid-Lane Lulu, Kog'maw, Zilean, Soraka, Tristana, Janna, Ezreal, Heimerdinger
JungleTryndamere, Gangplank, Blitzcrank, Alistar
AD Carry: Urgot
Top Lane: Urgot
Support: Kayle, Malphite, Gangplank, Elise, Maokai, Yorick, Lissandra, Karma, Ashe, Zilean, Leblanc, Caitlyn

  • Champions in BOLD I will talk about shortly
  • Champions UNDERLINED may be over/undervalued, but aren't/haven't played enough for me to make a better judgement.
  • Within each tier the champions are strongest from left to right, but within a tier each champion's strength is relatively close. This is especially true for Tiers 2 and 3 where these champions are ALL highly playable and player dependent on how strong they are in-game.

Champion Explanations
  • Annie - Support Annie is apparently very strong as the Asians have shown, and she certainly has a lot of utility and damage at her disposal. However, I'd say she's borderline Tier 3 in solo queue, as people simply don't have the game knowledge to know when to trade with her just yet.
  • Corki - Even after the trinity nerf Corki's still hella strong. I'd say he's still ban-worthy in his current state.
  • Fiddlesticks - Fiddle support is very strong, and since he has no skillshots, he's definitely no harder to play than say Janna or Zyra. As everyone knows his fear is pretty game-breaking, and even as support his ult can still put a hurting on squishies.
  • Gragas - Really strong utility, high skillcap champion, but 1v1 is fairly easy to succeed. Tanky with poke and burst. Only issue is the skillcap and the tendency to throw your ultimate in a manner that makes your teammates fail all their skillshots, but welcome to solo queue.
  • Jax - Okay, I'll be honest with you guys. I really didn't want to put Jax up there because I really hate Jax. His late game is retardedly strong, but nobody knows how to play against his early game. If his counterstrike is active, run away. Its cooldown is so high, no matter who you are (riven, tryndamere, etc.) your cooldowns will always be high enough to run away, then jump back on him before his counterstrike comes back up. That being said, he's obnoxiously strong, but I simply don't have enough bans to use one on him.
  • Karma - Karma top lane is pretty strong, and counters a few champs like Singed and Tryndamere. Still rarely played though, so we'll have to see.
  • Nasus - Top lane god dog OP. NerfPlz.
  • Olaf - The buffs to Olaf actually made him pretty viable now. he's not overpowered and might need some twerking, I mean tweaking, but his ability to lock down a target is slowly coming back.
  • Shen - I'm not sure how often I've explained how I feel about Shen...but I really don't like Shen. He's that champion that always does well on the enemy team and always does poorly on yours. He's simply not that strong, and if your team isn't ready for you to ult and disengages, his range isn't high enough to jump back in. 
  • Syndra - As a mage, Syndra's actually pretty decent, even without a good set-up. As long as your team can snowball hard off her early game, she's definitely strong. I'd say she's an improved version of LeBlanc with some AOE.
  • Vayne - I'm sorely tempted to place Vayne in god tier just because of her incredible late game, but in solo queue, for the majority of us mortals (myself included), we'll never reach her true potential. Instead, we'll just get pummeled by Caitlyns and Corkis, and assassinated by Twitches....
  • Vi - Her level 6 ganking potential is great and she scales well. Trinity force also definitely set her up to be strong force to be reckoned with as well.
Disclaimer:
  • The purpose of this list is for discussion and to provide a starting point for hero selection.
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297 comments:

  1. Kevin LinorOctober 08, 2013

    nope zacks deals no damage late game you can just ignore him late him he isnt broken even teemo jungler is better then zac lmao i really dont undersatnd how people think he is broken

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  2. Jonathan Van EgmondOctober 08, 2013

    How is Irelia now? I'm thinking between her and Kennen for who to buy next, and want to make the best decision

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  3. I really feel like Lee Sin is under valued. He brings amazing utility, early game presence, and objective control. He can invade and destroy most all of the God tier junglers. He is also a huge threat throughout the game and can gank at any level unlike Vi and Amumu. I can't see why he is not a God tier champ. If someone can enlighten me that would be awesome. Sorry for the ignorance.
    Thanks in advance :)

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  4. Jonathan Van EgmondOctober 08, 2013

    Zac is a tank jungler, he isn't supposed to deal tons of damage. He's supposed to get his allies super fed early and protect them later

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  5. SSJSuntasticOctober 08, 2013

    In the right hands he can be god tier, but the main issue is that he falls off hard late game, and he isn't always the most reliable of initiations. Without positioning himself correctly for a good kick, he doesn't really bring as much disruption to a teamfight as other junglers later on.

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  6. very nice list overall. i dont really disagree with any of the placements, which is rare for me lol. i for one always feel ziggs is undervalued, but thats just particularly because hes one of my favorite champions and most people dont really know how to play against him in capable hands

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  7. Would really like some of your input on Urgot

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  8. GrandpaEarsOctober 08, 2013

    I was surprised to see Lux moved up to god tier as she wasn't played at all mid during worlds (afaik, anyway) and she seems weaker to assassins like fizz than Orianna and Gragas. I mained Lux for a long time and recently ditched her for Orianna & a few others. Did I switch too soon? Any explanation for the change?

    Thanks! =)

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  9. Its look good over all just waiting to update this patch soo i can play with changes :)

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  10. Renek's back in God just in time for me to enjoy the pool party skin...

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  11. Thoughts on Lux going to god tier?

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  12. Where's Orianna support on the tier list?
    somewhere between 2 and 4?

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  13. Meanwhile, in Wood Division..

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  14. I don't understand that choice too :( Lux as been nerfed not long ago even...Tier 1 seems more accurate! (IMO)

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  15. Tier 3 i would say...

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  16. It warms my heart to see Renekton elevated to God Tier but would you care to elaborate why?

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  17. Sorry but can you explain why Twitch got bumped up to the god tier?

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  18. Wait for the remake (and pray for it to be more successful than Karma)

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  19. You sir made me laugh )))

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  20. She has a HUGE AOE shield that can shield her entire team, very long range (thus very safe) and her ult is great for making plays (sniping people, stealing shit etc). She is like orianna is many ways: strong laning fase, loads of AOE damage and CC and a good amount of utility.

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  21. exactly but she used to be stronger before but she kept being highly viable atm!

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  22. He was i think already

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  23. Cho-mid-my-mainOctober 08, 2013

    Lux is very op. I think that a well-played cho mid must be in tier 1 or more.

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  24. Fiora mid and Riven mid?

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  25. Well, from my experience in solo queue people just have a hard time with his early and mid game bully approach. He's manaless, he has sustain, a gap closer, a stun, and he can bait a dive and survive with his ult if you aren't expecting it. Basically, unless you get hard countered, you should be shoving your weight around. Late game he falls off a bit, but he's still a beefy tank with an initiate and AOE to help team fights.

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  26. What he said. Also, Lee is another high skill champ, and you don't see a lot of OMG-inducing plays in solo queue with Lee Sin. Usually you see the low elo Tristana play of ulting the target out of the fight with 10 hp.

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  27. Yah, nothing broken about a champ that can build straight tank and still have a long range initiate, an AOE knockup, a slow, and massive sustain. He's not there to bring the pain, he's there to disrupt your whole team while his teammates follow up and blow you up.

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  28. Thanx for the answer. I agree that he falls of late game but Amumu has horrible early game and if he gets invaded he wont be able to do much for a long while. I don't know if that made sense:/. I guess what Im saying that the other junglers have their weak points yet are God tier. I still do agree with your point but i strongly believe Lee has so much potential and early presence it kinda mitigates that he kinda falls of late. Thanks for the response. :]

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  29. Really good And faster :D

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  30. And even if you build 2 tanky items (f.e. Sunfire Cape and Spirit Visage) on him, then continue with Abyssal Scepter and Rylai's, two half-tanky items with AP, his Q and E deal enough damage to finish people off, or slow/knock them up until your carries are there.

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  31. Why is wukong top tier god?

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  32. Senderoth TollinskiOctober 08, 2013

    Great engage, OP ulti, and a W to get away after poking, allowing him to virtually zone any other lane as much as he wants while taking minimal damage.

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  33. Senderoth TollinskiOctober 08, 2013

    I'd have to agree with Nemo here, and not only that, but if you build Lee more tanky then damage ( Such as Hydra, Merc/Ninja Tabi, Sunfire, Omen, LW, and some MR ) he doesn't quite drop off late, due to his E's CC, kick to knock up quite a few of their team and cause someone to be out of position, and his Q's % damage still hitting hard when used at the right time.

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  34. Senderoth TollinskiOctober 08, 2013

    Kennen, not only more fun, but more viable.

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  35. SSJ i feel like Sejuani is kinda not really god tier material even in my research i found Valkrin (you must know him)

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  36. In my opinion, maokai jungle is just as strong as sejuani jungle. And this is coming from a sejuani lover.

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  37. When you said you made changes due to worlds, i thought gragas must have shot up. Why is he so low?

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  38. Justin MiousseOctober 08, 2013

    Great List, a couple suggestions from what I've seen and have been playing with or against.

    Move Jax down from God tier. There's no way he's that good. Tier 1 is fine, but not god, same goes for Trynd atm. I'd say it's possible to also move Janna down from God tier, but that's debatable. Not sure how Twitch is God when oracles and pink wards are everywhere at the moment. Lux is probably not God mid, but Tier 1. Fiddle Jungle can probably be moved down to Tier 1. But the Tier 1 Jungle list is insanely strong (lots of variety in there!)

    I'm pretty sure Kennen mid needs to be moved down. He's really strong Top, because he's heavily item reliant with all the MR items going around, and also is alot harder to gank top. He can probably stay Tier 1, but fairly far behind other strong Mid choices right now. Moving Vayne into God Tier is fine, I'd think,

    The defined hero roles are extremely balanced right now. Suffice to say that when you have to nerf an item, your heroes really aren't all that bad. I'm excited for Season 4, as well as the Jinx release. World Champs was amazing and seems to be proving all this.

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  39. Lucian should be tier 3, he's not that viable.. and definitely requires more skill to use!

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  40. I really think elise should be in a higher tier with support, tier 3 or even maybe tier 2. She has cc and very good damage. She doesnt have sustain but that does change the fact that she can support, but alsi can dish out damage later on in the game.

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  41. And very shortly after this post, you moved gragas...

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  42. SSJSuntasticOctober 08, 2013

    Yar forgot to move him. Disqus is trolling me on my phone though.

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  43. Irelia. Great fighting power, fast, and if you build her right, there's not a lot of better duelists due to her true damage allowing her to build tankier than other Assassin-y bruiser things.

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  44. Biggest difference between Amumu and Lee, the fact that one of them has a potentially game-changing ultimate, and the other does not.

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  45. Is Jungle Renekton viable?

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  46. So many mid lane gods lol. I understand for fizz and Orianna, but why zed? Zed is good late game, I know his burst, but he is mainly a one target guy, aft that, he relies on his autoattacks, Fizz can atleast have zhonyas, and by then his cds will be gone.

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  47. MarcoRotax1994October 09, 2013

    this article is ridiculous, lux tier god? lol
    xin zhao tier2? pls stahp

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  48. SSJSuntasticOctober 09, 2013

    So what you're saying is you find the fact that xin zhao is balanced to be a joke? I don't understand.

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  49. Zed is a lot like Fizz. If he gets ahead early, he can snowball hard and essentially explode anyone but a full tank with his combo late game and still escape. And with some CDR and maybe blue buff, his cooldowns are pretty darn low. Not a lot of mid lane champs building armor that can stand up to his combo post-6.

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  50. Completely agree on moving Lux down from mid God tier. She's strong, but not broken strong. I'd still take a few of the Tier 1 champs over her in mid lane. But then again, mid lane isn't my strong suit

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  51. Kennen is no way more fun to play than Irelia... it's Boring actually, and you get tired of controlling his auto-attacking W to combo with his other stun a abilities. Plus Irelia can make always prettier and nice plays than him, which you rely too much in having a Zhonyas to do so...

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  52. Totally true but the whole of Lee's kit has more potential that Amumu whole kit does. See Amumu brings one game changing ult at a cost of an horrible early game and horrible early game pressure. Lee has 2 "dashes" and insane damage and peel. I don't exactly know were in going with this but Amumu has an epic ult and Lee has amazing early game presence. Many of the amazing teams play Lee because he can gank early and get the lanes giong. People like bengi, cyanide, dade. If you look at the OGN games dade and bengi have like 0 farm at 30 mins ,but like they gank the dodo out of the lanes. Lee main role is to take the team out of the laning phase. I'm just rambling at this point but right now Lee is insane and is contested pick because of his presence.

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  53. um ezreal in mid lane is really strong, he definately shud be bumped up ... he works as a pokey pokey champion if ur blue ez. ive play blue ez, its seems since he stays out of range for all mid laners, cept for the few like lux who has massive range, he still has his mobility to dodge their skillshots, + hes in mid lane, where its relatively easy to lane q's. Him getting the farm in mid lane cuz theres no support taking his exp, and by him staying far back, no chance for the mid laner to CC him, he snowballs even with CS, making him the adc/apc for the team. Hes really underplayed at mid cuz people think mid = ap top = bruiser and stuff liek that... really people shud open their minds... like also garen mid is a thing, ive done it heaps of times... same way how chogatth works tbh, by using ur q, the bonus movement spd shud be able to help dodge the skillshots and the silence works perfectly, how the mid laner, whos usualyl a caster, cannot cast. if somehow the mid lands deadly skillshots, garen still has his w to protect him, and his passive for regen. Hes one of the mids which everyone underestimates alot.

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  54. Westley TimotheeOctober 09, 2013

    Lmao

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  55. Twitch is a late-game hyper carry. His W does AoE damage, and every single target hit with W gets affected by his E. Then, simply look at his E scalings: 'Base Physical Damage: 20 / 35 / 50 / 65 / 80 ... Bonus Damage per Stack: 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 / 35 (+ 20% AP) (+ 25% bonus AD) ... Max Physical Damage: 110 / 155 / 200 / 245 / 290 (+ 120% AP) (+ 150% bonus AD)'
    That is A LOT of damage you can put onto several enemies at once. Then, he can stealth - and sneak in and out of a fight. His ult does ridiculous damage (hitting all enemies in line), too, buffing ATT SPD and range.



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  56. I really think she is though. My win-rate with her is near 75%, and I've also used her as a support several times.


    See, I think her R combined with Q deal really high damage, even if you don't build any damage items. I use Armor and AP/Magic Pen on her. Then just add the rest of the pile to it - W and E. Both deal damage, and E slows your enemies. So in teamfights, Sejuani is ridiculously strong and very helpful. Her R doesn't even have that much of a high CD mid and late-game. You can engage, because you're tanky, depending on the situation you use Q or R - comboing either Q and R or R and Q, and you stun several enemies (of course, you have to hit a good ult, but I personally don't think that's hard), and after that/at the same time knock them up with Q. It's really easy once you've slowed and/or stunned them with your ult. As soon as you're in the crowd, activate your W and bully the heck of out the enemy team. You can even slow them whenever you please, just click your E.
    I'm pretty sure you've tried to get through a Sejuani and to the enemy team's ADC or APC before. It's really not easy with that stun, the slows and the knock-up. Let's say you succeeded in getting to and attacking the enemy ADC - tada, here's Sejuani, and if she's a good Seju, she will knock you up with her Q instantly, since it's a gap-closer, knock-up AND deals damage. It also procks her passive, so she can even slow you within the next few seconds. She's also beefy as fuck, and in my opinion almost unkillable by the end of mid-game. Her Q is an escape, she can jump through/over walls, and even if your team is in deep shit, she can stop the enemy team by either throwing her R at them, Qing in, knocking several enemies and sacrificing herself for them, or simply activate her W to do AoE damage and bully them away. Even if all of that doesn't work - remember, she still has her passive that allows her to slow the enemy team as soon as they're hit by her auto-attacks or abilites.

    She either snowballs if you feed her early game, or you have the choice of farming, waiting and getting her into late-game if you had a rough start. Late-game her ultimate is a game-changer.

    Do you see what he means now?

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  57. DarktundrasOctober 10, 2013

    CC? In laning phase all she can do is slow. Her shield has a 40% ratio and she gives no steroids whatsoever, her only disengage engage is her ulti, T4 if anything

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  58. DarktundrasOctober 10, 2013

    Lux's and Diana's shields were nerfed heavily and no longer secure their unkillable aspects in lane Ie maxing shield on lux and maxing shield 2nd on diana. Regardless in the current meta gap closers and assassins rule the game. Lux has base 12 armor and can be mauled lv 2 by any gap close AD. This is balanced with her range, however she does NOT belong in any tier above 2

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  59. YolosswagniggaOctober 10, 2013

    Why is Tryndamere in god tier?
    Honest question :D

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  60. - Highly strong 1v1 (even 1v2)
    - His E allow him to get closer but it's more efficient as an escape (mostly early lvls :))
    - With Shiv Statik you just gonna clean a wave in 2-3secs and turn king of splitpush!
    (N.B: Says to your team you ain't gonna be there for them if you decide to really splitpush nonstop sometimes you can face enemy compo which arent adequate!)
    - His ultimate! (RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR)

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  61. Meta isn't something you mold like you wish to get "Victory" on your screen!
    Meta is here to make a balance in the damage output and the composition as well.
    In soloQ i often see the mistake of mid locking Zed and Top/Jungle some ad bruiser...not having to build magic resistance is going make your path items easy and often really often lead your team to victory...If you go 5v5 with friends your idea of opening your mind might work really often but here its for SoloQ stuff only...

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  62. Xin should be top Tier 2 indeed but Lux god is ridiculous? hm...

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  63. I always felt this way about her but now i really think she isn't that kind anymore...i don't know how to explain the way i perform and saw other player performing with her was really disappointing on paper she seem to have huge impact but in game...i don't know my guess is that she really is item dependent....i mean you need to rush the HP jungler item and Sunfire in most case to deal decently or great...i guess :(

    75%? You did how many games ? i guess not much or otherwise you must have reached really high into ranks!

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  64. Yes or that sincerly i wouldn't try that...i mean...there are tons of better exotic support...

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  65. SSJ Passive: Ninja moves! :)

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  66. I see what you're pointing at, and I agree that you have to rush or at least buy Ancient Golem and Sunfire Cape first. But I don't really see a problem with that - she has an amazing kit for ganks, so money should come in quickly. And if it doesn't, yes, she does fall back a bit, but like I said - with a bit of farming and getting her to late game you're fine. And which jungler, champion or tank doesn't face problems if they don't get tanky quickly enough?

    After you get these two basis items you're fine.

    And hah, no, I'm not high in rankings, I'm only 11 - 3 with her. But to be honest, that's a really nice ratio for where I am right now (started grinding for Gold a few weeks ago, just got to Silver 5, yay, not stuck in Bronze hell anymore.) People tend to give out free kills and throw so quickly at this elo, and still I've only lost 3 games with her. I'm pretty sure at least one of those we had an AFK, too.. so.. yeah.

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  67. SuperAfroManXDOctober 10, 2013

    he probably just started and thinks xin is OP cuz of his knock up

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  68. True...people often think i got a winning strike with a tier 2 champion it should be god tier...instead of thinking that Tiers are more about the impact in game you can have between this and this champion or the difficulty of learning/performing with a certain champion...

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  69. Nicolas CageOctober 10, 2013

    It's alright, but I wouldn't place it above a lot of other junglers. It can work, but there are other junglers which function better. I've had more success jungling Urgot, actually.

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  70. It's really great ratio! Silver still throws sometimes like Bronze (Even at Gold but rarely) after i don't know how it goes on NA the mentality is pretty different i found in S2 now i got no idea...
    All you need its to never let your focus drop by what people think or say (except if it's constructively said...which is super rare...) always keep your intel at the highest you can! and you will raise to Gold in no time :) Often players tend to perform in the opposite way which is called "Tunnel Vision" and this stuff cost so many games...every game is way to prove yourself that you are better! :)

    About Sejuani the last time i performed and saw other players performing the result was always poor its like to give you an example if i fall behind with Jarvan which happened yesterday you can always find a way to come back! With Sejuani i really felt the opposite :( i must be bad at her...no idea...

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  71. Even Nicolas Cage agree!

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  72. Fizz has a better early than Zed...like WihiWihi said you can snowball really hard from lvl1-6 without any doubt!
    About Zed it's different his early isn't amazing it's just ok and his late game is better than his early for sure but since he is a close fighter you have to be really careful where you land and try to kill in area where you aren't too much exposed to CC during teamfights
    Zed strongest point is Mid game from lvl6 it's where Zed shine the most his burst damage from Ult+PassiveUlt+Q+BasicAttack(Zed Passive) make him the best AD assassin!

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  73. The points you make doesn't make Elise valid for Tier 2 or 3 remember that one game is not enough to decide the fate of a champion also if you are experienced with Elise isn't helping this list affect to general players not only you.
    There are better exotic choices of support!

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  74. Great points you showing here!
    Your point on Jax is really justify just like Trynda even if i kinda like him :3
    I mean if SSJ you are reading all this i think it's really hard to define a list for those role i mean Top/Mid since the 1st pick is a factor to take in consideration if one of the 2 team pick Jax ofc he can always perform great for team fight but before that there is the lanning phase! and if he face a decent or veteran Singed player or Renekton...Jax will be inefective and it might cost the game!
    Anyway great points Justin!

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  75. "Strong as" but not stronger than sejuani right? :) Tier 1 is fine for him imo

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  76. Because of the kitting of death! ^_^

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  77. Justin MiousseOctober 10, 2013

    I think the main reason im prone to moving jax and trynd down are that they really dont excel in controlling a lane or a team fight as much as renekton singed and wukong. Nasus darius and other strong top laners fall short of the god tier, despite being great in team fights or controlling the game, because they lack a true stun. I understand how both jax and trynd can split push but with all the map vision going around as well as the focus on strong team fighting to gain objectives, split pushing is becoming much more difficult.

    The same can be said for other lanes and my choices there. For example lux and janna. As well as mocing corki and twitxh to tier 1. With vayne going up to god.

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  78. Well, but any champ can be kitted, like example sejuani by vyne XD, i think even that udyr can take more damage from kiiting that sejuani, and sejuani is still God tier XD

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  79. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Jax/Trynd then. Honestly though, unless you're just new to Jax, he's ridiculous 1v1 (even 1v2) once he hits mid game. Same can be said for Tryndamere. Not sure how you're playing them top, but Trynd and Jax both can pretty much decide the tone for their lane, and while they may lack some of the team fight presence of a Nasus or Renekton, they still bring the pain and can allow your team 4v3 situations when you split push. Cause honestly, there's no way they're sending a solo champ to come take down a late game Jax or Trynd. If they do, that's just another kill for you in addition to the tower you just pushed down.

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  80. Lol ok I'm asking because lately it seems that a lot of champs have been played in different roles, like Support Annie, hell even Jungle Sion.

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  81. Andrew ScottOctober 10, 2013

    Sejuani has 3 great ccs Maokai has 2; Sejuani's Ult is Crazy initiate Maokai's is whatever at best.

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  82. Ssj i think your right about jaxes late game but that shouldn't make him a god tier. i believe hes bottom of tier 1 at best. hes countered by any ap top lane, most top lanes with good sustain and can be cs denied hard if he is countered in lane which takes off a lot of his late game potential.

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  83. Wellll

    Where is it.

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  84. Marconi Delos ReyesOctober 11, 2013

    I agree, but i want to involve Akali and Katarina. In god tier.

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  85. Marconi Delos ReyesOctober 11, 2013

    Why does Tryndamere belong to weak Jungler?
    More player's even in rank wan't to play Tryndamere in Jungle Position.

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  86. Carmelo AliOctober 11, 2013

    Xin Zhao in my opinion should either be Tier 1 or God Tier since he is really strong 1v1 situations and even 1v2 and Xin's q and makes him push towers incredibly fast making him one of the best split pushing champions.

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  87. Thoughts on jinx?

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  88. Why is it that Wukong is in God tier top, i dont understand, and i really want to know :)

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  89. But the most common issue with Udyr is that you got no gap closer so in some case its really hard to reach your target :(

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  90. On what i saw her early is good > mid game super stronk > late game no so good anymore...

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  91. Low impact on ganks

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  92. Good assassin champions but in general to perform great with them you have to position yourself dangerously

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  93. God Tier? You are just having idealizing Xin Zhao...You need to understand that if you got like 200games with Xin with insane win rate doesnt mean others can do the same...Just like Lee Sin which i find better than Xin he isn't God and never will be simply because it depend more into the summoner which can do God things with him than the lambda summoner.
    Hope you understand.

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  94. understand.. thanks for you reply :)

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  95. I assume you're being sarcastic. Right? Right? Oh god he's serious. There are people like this? *shoots himself*

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  96. Chekhovs GnuOctober 11, 2013

    Where do you guys think Thresh would place as a top-lane champ?

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  97. Kevin LinorOctober 11, 2013

    yeah but he doesnt have the spell to protect hs allies rammus is better mal is better volibear is better zack snt op like i sad he sucks

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  98. Tier 3 imo (only in good hands)

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  99. is singed so high because of proxy singed or no?

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  100. Anyone else think Rumble should be tier 1? or Anivia?

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  101. Arnold ChenOctober 11, 2013

    1. Please learn to spell some words correctly
    2. Knock-up, slow and stun do protect allies...
    3. 'Mal is better,' please, Zac disrupts teamfights so well and is decent at peeling whereas Malzahar only has his suppress...

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  102. Brvno FerreiraOctober 11, 2013

    WHAAT?? Quinn ADC Tier 1???

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  103. Kevin LinorOctober 11, 2013

    lol please learn to play better then dont troll:) and i will learn to spell better until you stop being so stupid

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  104. Huzaifa KakakhailOctober 12, 2013

    LOL i think he meant Malphite. You cant really tell xD

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  105. Huzaifa KakakhailOctober 12, 2013

    Could someone please explain to me why Twitch is in God tier? I honestly don't understand why. He definitely deserves Tier 1 but i don't know about him being "Very Strong".

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  106. Can you give me an explanation for Rammus? :)

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  107. Why is it that wukong is in god tier, can any1 tell me what that make him god tier please :)

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  108. Where do you guys think Veigar support would be in the list. I mean, Veigar support is better than mid Veigar if they have 2 or more AP...

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  109. Nicolas CageOctober 12, 2013

    Veigar isn't a terribly good support, without items he isn't a major threat.

    The only time I could see myself using it is in a Vayne/Veigar lane. Condemn for the stun!

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  110. TheGeckoFTWOctober 12, 2013

    what about Vlad he is the biggest top lane bully any player above silver 3 wouldn't know how to deal with him. He doesn't need to be fed, and can split push and has troll pool great choice for Bronze and silver solo q

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  111. Thats exactly with her that i played him last game :D

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  112. Andrew ScottOctober 12, 2013

    Seeing a lot of Gragas sup lately any reason why?

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  113. xxbluejay21October 12, 2013

    Are you kidding me? Move Janna down? The champion that has had the highest winrate in all ranks for a while now? You're biased against her because you don't see pros using her. This is a solo queue tier list. Janna fully deserves to be in God tier.

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  114. xxbluejay21October 12, 2013

    Pros don't choose the best champions. They choose champions that fit into their team comp and game plan well. Lux is a great mid. God tier? Who cares, she's good. And you don't have to have one main. You still have lux, so just play her once in a while.

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  115. Aaron PhilpotOctober 12, 2013

    Why isn't Rumble AT LEAST Tier 1 top? His ultimate is game changing to say the least, making his team fight presence outstanding. In lane, he's extremely powerful too, His shield helps him survive( Not to mention it's a movespd buff), his slow that can shoot twice for chase downs, and his High DPS AOE flamethrower, when combined with his overheat, allows him to duel with almost anyone in the whole cast. I don't think he's getting the credit he deserves IMO. Care to discuss?

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  116. I admit there are many better choices, but, elise seems too strong of a support to me, to be that low, i dont know, when me or my friends play her support we always seem to do well, but you are right, i was a bit obnoxious

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  117. John DeFazioOctober 13, 2013

    I really think Zed is the top mid laner in the game right now. When played correctly there really isnt a mid that can stop him. Even champs like fizz that have a 1v1 advantage against him can't hold him cause he clears the waves so fast and then has great mobility to pick up kills in other lanes. 1v1 zed vs Ahri is a pure skill matchup but i think zed has a slight advantage. Idk what do you think?

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  118. John DeFazioOctober 13, 2013

    He can crit an entire team....

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  119. John DeFazioOctober 13, 2013

    doesn't he have the highest win rate?

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  120. John DeFazioOctober 13, 2013

    nvm he has 8th but hes still really strong. On a side note Malzahar has the third highest win rate???!!!

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  121. oh but if u have a zed mid, chances if u get a j4 in jungle u usually solve ur armour problems early, and if ur teams any smart, they'ld build armour pent early to come out on top. But usually if its an ad mid like zed or talon, go like an ap top, like diana, akali, vlad, all work, same shit tbh, theyld build some mr for the ap :) or jungle ap like diana..

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  122. You talk about SoloQ like its logical but i remind you it's SoloQ except you are Platine Diamond or Challenger you play with mostly dumb people!
    So getting a Ezreal Mid is a bad idea simply because double adc will be easy to shutdown if your enemy team don't behave like bronze.
    And i know what im talking about Ezreal is my most played ADC so if you want to keep inventing your meta go on but here we make proper sense...

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  123. lol is he talking to himself?

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  124. It's true but the most problematic thing for Zed its like the world #1 assassin problem...team fight 5v5 where you have to jump in and jump back asap or just way for the best moment to move on...if they focus you since the begining and you go in without thinking...adios amigo!

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  125. If it works for you then great :) but there are more "Support" consistent champion you can still play Elise Top or Jungle she perform great but need really strong skills anyway! (but you seem to caught her right i guess)

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  126. They went full retard :(

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  127. He is super strong no doubt Aaron it's just like SSJ would say im sure he received a major nerf several mouth ago...which now his ultimate deal no bursty damage on impact which was freaking AWESOME ! (1st hit on ADC like Ashe taking 50% HP...MI GUSTA!!!)
    So now it deal more damage on time "DoT" thats why now we got a problem general player base simply cannot handle the overheat and/or landing the ult correctly before it was less problematic don't ask me why :(

    But SSJ will agree with me that there are always a possibility to be trained correctly playing Rumble and smashing around most champ!
    (Mostly in US you got better Rumble than in EU) :)

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  128. Bronze/Silver where you got tons of untalented players or/and moody which create the so called "Elo Hell"

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  129. Support Annie is ok!
    Sion Jungle and Sion in general It's like "DUDE! I WANNA RUN!" *Shoot yourself in the foot* "LETS DO IT!"

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  130. Jax and Tryndamere are either picks or bans every game in Challenger. Just saying with Jax and Tryndamere you can just split push all game and destroy everybody that comes your way. After Jax and Tryndamere get a few items their power is unmatched by any characters in game. They can easily force 2 people top and kill one of them creating a 4 v 3 in the team fights and securing a baron for your team. Jax and Tryndamere are both extremely lane dominant even and can do ok against counter picks, unlike say Riven.

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  131. Lux is strong and has good utility but her lane safety has been really nerfed. Before you could build Mejai's on Lux and never lose a stack as long as you play well but now since assasin's like Zed and Fizz have come into play its really difficult to play Lux as safely as before. Like Orianna and Gragas they Lux has aoe damage and utility but compared to them her reliable damage is much lower.

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  132. Zac has massive aoe cc and can totally shut down champs for the entire team fight. I think that Zac is nerfed really hard with his blobs being really hard to control now but he is definitely stronger than Teemo -_-

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  133. A well played Xin Zhao is actually very strong and he is right about xin's pushing ability however xin is easily kited and quiet squishy compared to most junglers. I would agree with xin being in tier 2 or 1.

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  134. Rumble is quiet strong but his lack of mobility really hurts him. Ex: A Tryndamere can easily just e away from a Jarvan gank however Rumble cannot. Rumble also has NO SUSTAIN what so ever (unless your building hextech revolver :/). This I think is his main problem. Most champs don't need to out trade him but just out sustain him.

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  135. I don't completely agree with the Wukong being in god tier either. I think that Wukong is strong in team fights because of his ulti and he has mobility and gap closers but his lane phase is quiet weak. I think Wukong can be shut down easily in lane. He is also very item dependent.

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  136. He has a slow and a safe lane phase with his invisibility. He has good lane dominance as well as a strong late game. He is safe with his ulti's massive range and he has aoe on top of it.

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  137. Quinn's dueling potential is surprisingly strong with her ulti being an execute in bird form. However compared to other her range is low as well as she has to get close to be able to do damage in bird form causing her to be really dangerous to play. I think she is good but not that strong to be in tier 1.

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  138. Singed can farm all game, crush his lane, and run around with poision like the unstoppable tank that he is. Nuff said.

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  139. Thats cause nobody plays malz -_-.

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  140. Aaron PhilpotOctober 13, 2013

    As a jungler, he has extemely high mobility with his Q, add that to Boots of Mobility and you won't be getting away today, on top of that, when he does get to you, he has a 3 second taunt, combined with his E which is basically thornmail, and his seismo ulti, it's pretty much guaranteed kill secured. Give him Thornmail and Sunfire and you do so much damage just by being there and taunting. I'd say he deserves his position in God Tier. he's mad fast, and his ganks are near impossible to get away from.

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  141. stealing shit..

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  142. I totally agree! Never thought about it that way, thanks! :)

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  143. Robbie HellerOctober 13, 2013

    Thank you for this post and this blog! I just started playing league and this is amazing info!

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  144. Andrew ScottOctober 14, 2013

    It has its moments when it makes a casual decent play but mostly he's mr. meals on wheels.

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  145. Chandler YenOctober 14, 2013

    I mained Lux about 7 months ago, back when she was good and her ult on a 26 second CD at 40% CDR with simply a grail/morello + a blue pot late game. Now that her ult is at 10 seconds longer CD and her shield doesn't shield as much anymore, its fallen off pretty hard. I haven't played her on the regular since July maybe a game here or there for old time sakes, but she is NOT god tier even with her dragon/baron stealing ability and sniping the low health carries in the back lines. Plus, people at my level (plat 4) usually don't miss smites that much anymore for Lux's to steal dragons/barons.

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  146. Chandler YenOctober 14, 2013

    Agree with Vayne moving to god tier. She's more of a pick/ban over twitch and Cait. Vayne's only held out of god tier because the champs in god tier are just her counters. I'd say Twitch vs Vayne is more of a skill match up though. Twitch has a better chance vs Vayne in lane, but both are equally as good late game with a slight edge to Vayne in my opinion considering team doesn't clump up and everyone gets hit by spray and pray. Jax is god tier because of his split pushing ability in this meta. Good gap closer, counterstrike is really good late game diving onto carries. Build tri and bork and you have a problem at 25 minutes. Don't get me started on a randuin's for late game. He's scary good. Trynd is the same. Strong gap closer and a strong split push, which is the meta right now. Both are picks and bans in plat along with Vayne, Zed, Kass, Ahri, Fizz, and Rammus.

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  147. Give me on reason he is better support than mid ?
    I can even agree somewhere on lux or orianna or fiddle in term of exotic support pick but gragas? he got 0 support potential

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  148. IMO > Aatrox God Tier

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  149. Peter scarraOctober 14, 2013

    Why is Ryze top lane tier 3?
    I main and Im plat 1 and do well top lane.

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  150. Andrew ScottOctober 14, 2013

    Is Jinx God Tier or is it just me?

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  151. Does anyone feel that malphite should be a higher tier? I wouldn't say that he's a god pick, but I think he deserves tier 1 for his engages in teamfights.

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  152. Riven mid? :D

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  153. Nicolas CageOctober 14, 2013

    A lot of people are saying that she's actually one of the best ADCs in the game right now. Huge AS boost from her minigun, AOE crits, global execute, a fairly strong source of damage in her W as well as lane safety from her E, she's got a lot of things going for her.


    Using SSJ's tier list as a point of comparison, I'd place her fairly high in Tier 1. She doesn't have the absurd lane dominance of some ADCs or the terrifying late game of others, but a fairly strong skillset that allows her to perform fairly well at all points of the game.


    She's a lot of fun to play as well.

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  154. Nicolas CageOctober 14, 2013

    The range nerfs on his abilities, according to the author, really reduced his strength as a champion.


    I'd say his mid-lane is low Tier 2, and his top-lane is high Tier 3, in agreement with SSJ. Prior to the nerfs, in my opinion he was in the realm of low Tier 1 and high Tier 2, respectively.

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  155. Richard DannieOctober 14, 2013

    i demand an explanation on lux. I main the lady on luminosity and i dont think that she is anywhere near god tier, maybe tier 1 probably 2. she is against the current meta and has ZERO mobility. all of the champs that i consider god tier have some sort of mobility. i mean i can see the things that are amazing on lux: poke, aoe, cc, super long range, massive late game shield, burst. but she can be shut down or put behind sooooooooo easily in lane from ganks or counter picking that what she offers isnt good enough.... i would love to hear why they think she is a god tier.............

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  156. He might need some twerking..

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  157. SSJSuntasticOctober 14, 2013

    I might be a little biased on luck simply because I'm at a level where people only play Lux if they're good at Lux, since Ahri offers more for less effort. However, the cooldowns on Lux's abilities combined with the amount of utility she provides allows her so much room to outplay that there's always potential to make a comeback just based off her skillset. This combined with Athene's almost guarantees that the longer a battle drags out, the more likely the Lux team will draw victorious.


    I personally think she's a very strong pick and generally like it when I have one on my team, but I'll admit that she's probably closer to Tier 1 than God Tier in the hands of the general population trying to learn her. As such she'll probably be moving back down in the next update. It was definitely interesting to read your responses though!

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  158. SSJSuntasticOctober 14, 2013

    Ryze top lane would actually probably do a lot better than Ryze mid lane based on the range reductions and movespeed on his ultimate. He's rarely played now though, so I didn't give it much thought.

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  159. SSJSuntasticOctober 14, 2013

    Thanks for visiting :) It's really the people that come that make a difference ~

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  160. SSJSuntasticOctober 14, 2013

    Rumble's definitely strong, but I think he needs a team with strong CC to really shine. As such I've placed him at the top of the balanced tier close to being stronger than most.

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  161. Andrew ScottOctober 15, 2013

    idk man I'd put her above Caitlyn easily..

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  162. While underplayed, you should look into top lane fizz. It does pretty well right now.

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  163. Is Jinx going to be added, or is that for a new tier list for next month?

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  164. Nicolas CageOctober 15, 2013

    She certainly scales better into the late game than Caitlyn does, but her lane presence isn't quite as strong, IMO.


    She's a newly released champion, my opinion of her is subject to change.

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  165. Nicolas CageOctober 15, 2013

    I'd hardly say he's an excellent support, but he does provide decent harass with his Q that also slows attack speed, and his body slam slows. Level 6 kills with a Gragas support are also pretty easy.


    I'd say Tier 4, perhaps Tier 3 if played exceptionally well.

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  166. Nicolas CageOctober 15, 2013

    Why no Shen jungle?


    Also, just noticed that suddenly Skarner is a Tier 2 jungler. What's the reasoning behind this? (new Trinity Force?)

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  167. Jax is god tier for sure, he split push like a truck

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  168. Jax is god tier for sure, he split push like a truck.

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  169. Why is twitch god tier? Not disagreeing just wondering haven't seen him played all that much though.

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  170. Richard DannieOctober 15, 2013

    to be honest i rarely see drawn out team fights. more assassins = shorter and well less teamfights. the drawn ones just turn into chase fests or a tank vs a tank showdown........

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  171. Im disapoint in you Nicolas!

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  172. It's the same as double ADC comp...it aint stable you can perform super well in lane phase and when come a team fight you just melt :(

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  173. Slow jungle clear + rely very fast on items but it's viable somehow!

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  174. if you build him on the tankier side and max his w he does pretty well. i get an early sunfire and between his mobility and some tankiness he fairs pretty well.

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  175. Why not, but i think it ain't match the right purpose of Fizz...
    What i mean by that is you can go Banshe/Warmog/Sunfire etc... to offer tankiness but you will penalize your damage output (even maxing W i believe) compare to other champions top which offer this tankiness naturaly without penalizing the damage output (Renekton/Nasus for exemple)
    Your idea isn't bad just not adequate! Think impact of the game while you pick and split it in 2 part (Lane Phase/Team Fights)
    Hope you understand :) Between Tier 2 & 3

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  176. CTRL + F > Twitch

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  177. He will make it :)

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  178. Andrew ScottOctober 16, 2013

    I think Caitlynn is one of the worst late game Adcs in the game if she loses lane she is trash; description of god tier says if they lose cs lose lane they cane come back, so explain how she rebounds.

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  179. a nasus is a counter to hypercarries like this and can also push lanes himself insanely fast

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  180. you're definitely right about that. There are obviously much better tops and he is obviously a much better mid. I just figured it was worth the thought and guessed it was around tier 3.

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  181. Nicolas CageOctober 16, 2013

    I'd agree that her late-game isn't that terrifying relative to other ADCs.


    I think that the description is more of a statement indicating champion strength than a broad description of all of the champions within the tier. Caitlyn has possibly the strongest laning phase out of all of the ADCs (IMO), which means that in solo queue she's a fairly reliable and safe pick, and her low skillcap means that she can be played fairly well fairly easily. She also scales into the mid-game decently even if laning phase didn't go super well. Her long AA range allows for consistent DPS even if she has only an item or two.

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  182. Kevin LinorOctober 16, 2013

    is this guy a moron;) lmao just stop plz idiot

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  183. Kevin LinorOctober 16, 2013

    where is cassiopeia? and ziggs and malzahar? there really good where is udyr? man is this guy for real? i bet i would stomp of you so bad

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  184. I see many enthusiastic players here, so I will leave a link here that will help you guys became pro`s if you aren`t already

    http://tinyurl.com/LeagueofLeagendsGuide

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  185. all of them are op.
    i personally believe Sej is the best solo que jungler..
    so for your sake mr wtf here is my analysis
    1)Rammus: tele+homeguard= op if you dont ward past the bush when you see him comming its too late and you are taunted and knocked.. the cc is ridiculous
    2)Ammumu he has 2 stuns he can use on the same target giving your team so much time to do damage
    3) Jarvan...aonce he hits 6 your adc and supp can see the flag of death fly over a wall for the knock up..then he slows them..and once they panic flash he ults and they both died and your bot turret is gone ):
    4) Zac again like jarvan its the ridiculous gank potential and if you have a decent team almost all of his ganks result in kills because they are so unexpected
    5) Sejuani...no one plays her..so when somebody does they are usually really good at her mechanics, she can carry a team just like Jarvan can...once she gets a sunfire cape good luck killing her...her ult can turn the tide of team fights just like ammumu and imo she is the most broken jungler in the game..you cant really escape her at later levels..ALL SEJ PLAYERS USE FLASH OFFENSIVELY
    6)Fiddlesticks if a Fiddle is good he will farm up...steal almost every buff and fear silence then ult you to death..i dont play fiddle so i cant elaborate on him too much (someone help me!)
    7) Vi after watching the LCS she stood out the most...the ult potential is crazy...again can carry a team and is really hard to kill..she melts tanks..and can zone a carry


    All these junglers are gods..the only one i would consider putting in here is Nocturne.
    hope this helped! this tier list is perfect imo

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  186. Why is Malzahar tier 1?

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  187. Samuel Rasheed TanOctober 18, 2013

    WtF..aatrox is not in jungle gods..I played aatrox as jungler oncee and I defeated the enemy jax,trynd and lux..my standing is 32/8/12..I just wanted to say you should have move aatrox o god tier because if he becomes well fed he can kill a trnd easily..if a trynd uses his ult..aatrox will just use his passive to revive..

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  188. I think maokai is a T1 but a strong T1 with his cc and utility. He can use his saplings to check brush and make sure the enemy is not doing dragon or baron. His old ult use to reduce magic dmg dealt in it by 20% now it's all non turret dmg. Physical,magic, and true dmg all get reduced by 20%. Also if you get and iceborn and locket you can survive and peel.

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