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Jan 30, 2015

2015 Champion Tier List - Solo Queue - Patch 5.2 Update


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Preface Chatter
R.I.P. DFG, we'll always remember you...meanwhile, check out the newest in the solo queue tier list series, new and improved with updates for the post DFG era! This patch features some strong move-ups in the name of balance, but I won't spoil the surprise(s)? Check out the full listing below!
If you're looking for a more meta based tier list based on popularity, be sure to check out the FOTM list as well!
For a list of champions with the highest *potential* in the game without regard to difficulty or team synergies, check out the list of strongest potential champions in each position!
Patch 5.2 Summary
Buffs: Annie, Nidalee, Syndra,
Nerfs: Akali, Cassiopeia, Fizz, Rek'Sai, Zed
Tweaks: Ahri, Tristana
  • Added Nidalee Jungle
  • 2/2: Added some thoughts on Kalista, moved her up to Tier 1
  • 2/4: FOTM Tier list updated
  • 2/6: Added Zed top back on, Jungle Nidalee moved up
  • 2/8: Sion Top moved to God Tier, Malphite moved down. Sion's natural tankiness combined with his strong initiation is extremely effective in solo queue.
    • Kha'Zix Jungle moved up
Search for a champion:
The Tier List

God Tier [Highest Influence]:
Mid-Lane Gods: Ahri, Katarina
Jungle Gods: Jarvan IV, Fiddlesticks, Nidalee, Vi, Sejuani
AD Gods: Sivir, Jinx, Graves
Top Lane Gods: Irelia, Jarvan IV, Sion
Support Gods: Janna, Leona

Tier 1 [Strong/Preferred Choices]:
Mid-Lane: Annie, Swain, Cassiopeia, Malzahar, Vel'Koz, Talon, Anivia, Zyra, Wukong, Xerath, Nidalee, Brand, Karthus, Heimerdinger
Jungle: Rek'Sai, Wukong, Hecarim, Amumu, Sion, Skarner
AD Carry: Kalista, Draven, Ashe, Corki, Miss Fortune, Caitlyn
Top LaneMalphite, Swain, Renekton, Wukong, Fiora, Nasus, Rumble, Rek'Sai, Kennen, Tryndamere, Lissandra, Gnar, Riven, Hecarim, Teemo, Heimerdinger, Gangplank, Vladimir, Pantheon
Support: Taric, Blitzcrank, Sona, Nami, Zyra, Vel'Koz, Morgana

Tier 2 [Viable/Balanced Choices]:
Mid-Lane: Zed, Lissandra, Orianna, Azir, Pantheon, Diana, Morgana, Lux, Kennen, Ziggs, Viktor, Kayle, Karma, Mordekaiser, Twisted Fate, Vladimir, Galio, Teemo
Jungle: Pantheon, Warwick, Xin Zhao, Shaco, Volibear, Udyr, Maokai, Rammus, Nautilus, Lee Sin, Master Yi, Kayle, Jax, Zac, Cho'Gath, Rengar, Kha'Zix, Poppy, Aatrox, Malphite, Diana, Irelia, Karthus, Nasus, Olaf, Trundle, Gangplank
AD Carry: Tristana, Varus, Ezreal, Lucian, Vayne, Kog'Maw
Top Lane: Darius, Cassiopeia, Maokai, Jax, Volibear, Singed, Nidalee, Warwick, Azir, Rengar, Dr. Mundo, Zed, Trundle, Aatrox, Udyr, Karma, Garen, Lee Sin, Jayce, Lulu, Shyvana, Kayle, Cho'gath, Olaf, Yorick, Xin Zhao, Poppy, Viktor, Kha'Zix, Quinn, Vi
Support: Thresh, Braum, Annie, Soraka, Fiddlesticks, Alistar, Lulu, Xerath, Karma, Brand

Tier 3 [Needs Higher Skill/Knowledge Than Usual]:
Mid-Lane: Syndra, Lulu (AP), Kassadin, Akali, Leblanc, Jayce, Fizz, Zilean, Master Yi, Gragas, Jarvan IV, Fiora, Yasuo, Sona, Riven, Cho'Gath, Fiddlesticks, Ryze, Kha'Zix, Veigar, Sejuani, Malphite, Tristana, Kog'maw, Ezreal (AP), Elise
Jungle: Nunu, Nocturne, Yorick, Fiora, Zed, Malzahar, Leona, Dr. Mundo, Elise, Shyvana, Shen, Gragas, Riven, Darius, Evelynn, Fizz, Tryndamere
AD Carry: Quinn, Twitch, Twisted Fate, Kennen
Top Lane: Shen, Gragas, Morgana, Akali, Zac, Master Yi, Galio, Kassadin, Talon, Ryze, Rammus, Mordekaiser, Alistar, Yasuo, Leblanc, Vayne, Nunu, Elise
Support: Nautilus, Lux, Gragas, Maokai, Volibear, Zilean, Nunu, Kayle, Teemo, Malphite, Anivia, Syndra, Veigar, Lee Sin, Gangplank

Tier 4 [Low Benefits for Effort Used]:
Mid-Lane: Urgot, Soraka, Janna
Jungle: Yasuo, Garen
AD Carry: Urgot
Top Lane: Soraka, Urgot
Support: Nidalee, Orianna, Poppy, Elise, Galio, Shen, Yorick, Lissandra, Ashe, Leblanc

Instructions and Caveats:
  • Champions in BOLD I will talk about shortly
  • Champions UNDERLINED may be over/undervalued, but aren't/haven't played enough for me to make a better judgement.
  • Within each tier the champions are strongest from left to right, but within a tier each champion's strength is relatively close. This is especially true for Tiers 2 and 3 where these champions are ALL highly playable and player dependent on how strong they are in-game.
  • This tier list takes data from ALL players; however, since the majority of players fall in the first three tiers, the majority of data points will come from there.
  • Win Rates are important in analyzing each champion's strength, but are not the end-all criteria for any champion's position.
  • The creator of this list is diamond, so there may be some personal bias towards higher tier play on certain champions.

Champion Explanations
  • Ahri [God Tier Mid] - This patch's buffs to Ahri are absolutely insane. As I noted in the DFG removal analysis, the fact that DFG tended to be a somewhat higher skill item for most players meant that most people couldn't use it to its fullest potential to begin with. As part of Riot's compensation for Ahri, they made a champion that was somewhat above balanced extremely powerful.
  • Akali [Tier 3 Top/Mid] - Akali can still do very well and snowball to victory. That being said, she requires considerably more finesse now that her E no longer procs her Q.
  • Annie [Tier 1 Mid] - Annie's buff on Tibbers is helpful, but by no means game-breaking. The reason for this is that the movement speed bonus decays relatively quickly, and Annie will never maximize molten shield early as it's not efficient.
  • Cassiopeia [Tier 1 Mid] - Cassiopeia's nerfs hurt her early game considerably, but her scaling AP passive still keeps her very relevant throughout the game. Also, by means of generous junglers giving her blue, her mid-game is still exceedingly powerful, even without a successful early game cheese.
  • Cassiopeia [Tier 2 Top] - Cassiopeia top is a different story. Because she almost never gets access to blue as a top laner, this means she has increased difficulty bullying out sustain champions early and mid game.
  • Fiora [Tier 1 Top] - Due to a shifting meta back towards tanky top laners like Renekton with high sustain and good base damage, Fiora's starting to suffer. Additionally, the same champions that she has trouble with now have the ability to start with a cloth armor and rush it into a sunfire cape. They can also pick up an earlier ruby crystal to make into giant's belt now as well. I'd expect her to still be a good solo queue champion, but to continue drifting downwards if this is the way the meta shifts.
  • Fizz [Tier 3 Mid] - Fizz's changes made it so that the majority of his damage relies in landing his ultimate, a somewhat fickle skillshot. Compared to before, he is much less reliable. Good Fizz players can still do well, but he's not as faceroll by any means.
  • Hecarim [Tier 1 Jungle] - Surprisingly to me, Hecarim is relatively stagnant at the moment. While strong, he doesn't seem overwhelmingly so. We'll see how last patch's changes continue affecting him, but as of now, he may actually move down slightly in the future.
  • Irelia [God Tier Top] - Irelia's mechanics are relatively simple, but the knowledge required for her to deal with certain match-ups definitely differentiates the average ones from the great ones. Her ability to snowball off most champions is extremely high, and even from a losing position she can still turn around and carry games once she picks up her Trinity Force and a defensive item.
  • Jarvan IV [God Tier Top] - Jarvan currently gets a ton of free stats from his abilities that scale extremely well. With his double gap closer, he's extremely effective as an initiator from either top or jungle. The cloth armor to chain vest changes from a few patches ago combined with the ruby crystal to giant's belt change from this patch allows him to get stronger much faster and snowball harder than before in top lane, especially using a tank build into a mid-game hydra for damage.
  • Kalista [Tier 1 ADC] - With the advent of the bloodthirster/hurricane build, Kalista is seeing tons of success on the field. Additionally, with Taric starting to gain popularity again, Kalista also has a slightly higher likelihood of getting someone that synergizes well with her ultimate. That being said, she's extremely powerful with the right support, but I think she's still somewhat of a situational pick that may backfire depending on your teammates.
  • Katarina [God Tier Mid] - Nerfs to DFG did relatively little to keep her down. In fact, they made champions that needed the burst weaker and simply made her more effective in comparison. When the buffs Riot promised to Katarina hit, it's going to be absolutely absurd.
  • Malzahar [Tier 1 Mid] - With continued nerfs to his rival champions and their items, Malzahar continues growing in strength. It's really only a matter of time before people realize how insanely strong he is for how little they need to learn to play him effectively.
  • Nidalee [God Tier Jungle] - Nidalee jungle is surprisingly strong, especially in Patch 5.2. While her ganks are a bit subpar without landing her spear, it's fairly easy to nail from outside the fog of war.
  • Nidalee [Tier 1 Mid] - Nerfs to other AP mids have made Nidalee stronger in comparison, and she's making a slow comeback.
  • Sejuani [God Tier Jungle] - Sejuani is likely one of the most, if not the most underrated jungler at the moment. Her damage is fairly high for a tanky jungler, and her mobility and amazing CC can be game-changing.
  • Sivir [God Tier ADC] - Despite having a glitchy spellshield, I can't imagine that it makes THAT much of a difference unless you're highly skilled in using it. For the majority of people I suspect that not to be the case. Meanwhile, Sivir is extremely good with both high engage and kiting compositions via her ultimate, and also has the highest waveclear of any AD carry in the game. This makes her very difficult to pin down at turret, and also very difficult to seige on. She synergizes well with popular low clear mids such as Kassadin, which makes her amazing in solo queue regardless of whether her spellshield is glitched or not. I may eat my words when they fix it, but we'll have to wait and see. Meanwhile, she's very strong at the moment.
  • Zed [Tier 2 Mid] - Zed's nerfs did not hit him quite as hard as many people are crying about, but it has reduced his split push ability and subsequently I'm taking this opportunity to put him back where I think he belongs, in the balanced tier.
  • The purpose of this list is for discussion and to provide a starting point for hero selection.
Agree? Disagree? Comment below!

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  1. Carlos Archundia CejudoJanuary 30, 2015

    Any thoughts on tristana yet?

  2. SSJSuntasticJanuary 30, 2015

    So far she just seems a little different, I haven't seen anything that would indicate that she's significantly better or worse than before.

  3. Rondall Engle IIJanuary 30, 2015

    You moved Jarvan IV to God Tier Top Lane, but did not elaborate very much on it, and being a champ I rarely see outside if the jungle I would actually love to hear why you made this move.

  4. SSJSuntasticJanuary 30, 2015

    Similar reasons as Fiora. They're both still strong, but meta shifts make them a bit less effective.

  5. Why did you move down wukong to tier 1?

  6. SSJSuntasticJanuary 30, 2015

    Agreed, added a blub :)

  7. Matias Ignacio Araneda ArayaJanuary 30, 2015

    With the nerf on assassins, IMO lux - orianna - diana should be up e.e

  8. SSJSuntasticJanuary 30, 2015

    He should be Tier 3, thanks for pointing that out! :)

  9. Zachary VickersJanuary 30, 2015

    Rek'sai only went down one tier?

  10. Sejuani is literally ridic right now. I've been maining her every since her buffs..and let me tell you...it's insane. Her damage, along with the fact that she can stun an entire team if done right (and since I'm high silver, it's not very hard). Here, I'll link you to my lolking... http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/49500491#profile

  11. anthony abadiaJanuary 30, 2015

    So ahri's god tier in yolo queue because
    - She's easier to use and missing charm isn't as punishing as before
    - Mobility on Q and charm will make ganking her harder
    - She's a safe pick that can counterbuild more effectively since she can't be one shot as easily before(rip dfg)

    Also the best part of her changes have to be imo
    1. Mobility(OP) boost on Q will allow you to reposition so her true damage can hit easier :D (cheesed an annie with this)
    2..She'll do wayyy better against skillshot reliant people
    3. Foxfire damage and response time are way better this time around

  12. No God tier Swain? I'm surprised. Also what is your opinion on the new tristana?

  13. SSJ what do you think about orianna and other farming mages now? (Ziggs, Xerath, Aniva, Karthus) I feel like they should be a lot stronger after DFG removal as well some nerfs.

  14. Arnold ChenJanuary 31, 2015

    Wouldn't Wukong still be strong as Wukong has his armour shred? Sure it's less effective early game, but it's pretty useful for the team late game, especially since there are so many tanky champs being picked now?

  15. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    They are definitely getting stronger now and cycling around.

  16. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    LB's viability lies in her play-making ability, which during teamfights means that split second reactions can be the difference between winning and losing a game. Her margin for error simply isn't very high, and she's somewhat reliant on nailing her snare to get things done.

    Teemo offers a lot in the way of unpredictability, and can run down most champions with skillshot CCs as soon as they use them. As a consistent damage output from level 1, he can outtrade with mages as soon as he dodges a single spell.

    Viktor is pretty decent right now simply because of the AOE burst damage he offers with very little time to react.

  17. if you are veteran leblanc player she is excellent if not...like someone starting to play it played just few games with her he will still meet several difficulties she is high skillcap and thats where they stand Tier 3 doesnt mean they are bad champion just they require higher skill from player.

  18. Any reasoning on the rise of Ashe to tier 1?

  19. Ninko VuceticJanuary 31, 2015

    Just a question, top lane urgot if built as a bruiser is very powerful and very oppressive against many many top lane champions. Urgots E allows him to harass many champions outside of their own skill/AA range. If the enemy champion is quishy, then 3 q's is easily more than half their health. His mana problems are little to nonexistent if you start with flask and some mana pots. A tear early pretty much allows urgot to spam his Q, while practically losing nothing if he kills a minion with it and charges the tear. getting a black cleaver early will mitigate a great deal of armor that the enemy top laner may stack. after that you can freely build tank items on urgot, allowing him to duel almost anyone because of his ults resistance, his shield, 15% reduced damage by the target enemy combined with 25% armor shred and his own 20% armor shred on his E, his damage will stay very consistently High. So why would top urgot be in the lowest Tier?

  20. Lucas SampaioJanuary 31, 2015

    Why is LeBlanc tier 3 mid?
    I'm curious because i've been maining her for some time in mid-high elo (gold~plat) and she is really good against a lot of champions that are used in the current meta (squishy mages/assasins). I heavily harass the opponent with aa's and some combos early and i can get an early kill in almost all games. About the DFG removal, LB quite doesn't need it. Her built-in burst is high enough, you can one-shot the enemy carries with a W-Q-R-E-ignite or Q-R-W-E-ignite combo if you got some gold early.
    Of course she has hard counters like Swain, but most times it's a xerath, orianna or katarina match-up in the mid lane, and these are quite easy.

    Edit / PS: i can guarantee that LB is waaaay more viable than teemo and viktor in mid lane, which are counted as tier 2

  21. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    His damage isn't high enough to kill enemies before they realize they should probably go back and heal, and if he's winning lane he'll likely start pushing. Without escapes he becomes easy prey for junglers.

    Cloth armor build path changes also make it very easy for people to itemize against him, especially since his build path involves getting mana items before arpen for maximum efficiency.

  22. As said on the last tierlist the biggest reason is the as buff on items.

  23. PeatherWasadJanuary 31, 2015

    why jayce isnt in tier 1 ;_;

  24. Lucas SampaioJanuary 31, 2015

    Oh i got your point. She really isn't the kind of champion that can bring you wins without some practice and knowledge, you are correct.

  25. Wow, nidalee jungle is very good, I went 17/0/6 as my first game as her. Also another question, is Nidalee top AD or AP on this tier list?

  26. Zachary VickersJanuary 31, 2015

    Again, did this patch not hit Rek'sai that hard?? Or will there be more testing? I am just suprised that she is still a highly rated jungler. Tier 1

  27. Lucas SampaioJanuary 31, 2015

    You are right, LB really depends on hitting that chains and knowing the exact time to get in and burst her target. But i still think she should be higher than Teemo. I agree with you that Teemo can be a game-breaking champion, but his kit requires a lot of practice to be used properly (same as LeBlanc's), and he's also very vulnerable to ganks early since he has no real escape or cc

  28. rabidtangerineJanuary 31, 2015

    >High elo
    Choose one.

  29. the e nerf is minor? no, no no no.

  30. rabidtangerineJanuary 31, 2015

    Tier 3 Akali? I strongly disagree. They didn't touch her damage at all, her Q and R are still insanely bursty, especially if you get the chance to double q. The E change is minor overall and while the ult nerf is significant, I would hesitate to put her below tier 1. There is absolutely no way Akali is on par with Mordekaiser, Gragas and Yasuo.

  31. sweet cant wait, love this tier list

  32. yay 5.2 is here <3

  33. @SSJSuntastic Bow to the void and Add Malzahar or be consumed by it!!! (Top Lane)
    He is one of the best AP Toplaner with Lissandra & Swain!!!

  34. And team Hecarim mid is.... still missing qq

  35. Have to agree. I've played with Top Malzahars and most of them did great.

  36. James GreatrickJanuary 31, 2015

    @SSJSuntastic Will Diana be much better in mid this patch as Akali was nerfed (someone very similar to her) and she was untouched by the DFG removal and other nerfs. I think she will be one of the better assassins this patch

  37. Hey guys, i dont have Quinn, but as she is a t2 top and a t3 adc what is actually her original role, or intended to be?

  38. TheTheoryIsYouJanuary 31, 2015

    No Swain God Tier, there is no justice.

  39. As i remember, she was intented as a ADC, but she isnt good at it. Top is good. Also, she can be played mid.

  40. Im glad you moved up Kalista and Sivir by alot!

  41. The nerfs were huge. Her winrate has also fell down as a result.

  42. Thanks, I was kinda curious

  43. TheTheoryIsYouJanuary 31, 2015

    And now Nidalee jungle is higher than Shack, there is no justice.

  44. Ahri has 57.55% average winrate in ranked isn't that lovely? :D

  45. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    why not ad too?

  46. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    ad offtank/bruiser

  47. No Zed top? O.O Isn't he viable anymore?

  48. good adcs are liking this patch just saying. "oh lets just nerf every assassin so now adcs are unkillable"-riot balance team
    im bathing in these assassin players tears btw.
    Here comes the money (here we go)
    here comes the money

  49. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    minor nerfs? sorry they were pretty big ones
    100 less range on ulti is very bad especially vs long range mid laners and you cannot say that e change is minor since your dps is practically death,at least early game

  50. Precisely Diana is one of those assassins who got nerfed hard.

  51. Very good tier list, SSJ =). I love Nidalee....

    I cant wait to try out Kalista for the first time

  52. Yeah well I play her as a kind of a HYBRID! Yep. Some AD, some AP, more AP Though, and then tanky stuff also. Thats the master outplayer nidalee. IceBorn Gauntlet first item always if facing AD. If not, then Athene's. Mercury Treads/Sorcerer Shoes/some boots. Void Staff. Zhonya's. Maw of Malmorthius. Along those lines.

  53. So he is in tier 2? thats where he belongs he is OK- he is decent

  54. Yep. and all around she is just OK. Sheis not very strong atm

  55. Yes because best girl.


  57. poor akali.
    i never really vs you and when i do im kat so i have never even gotten to see how annoying u were

    riottt she was so funnn im investing all my learning time on kaattt

  58. She is decent but needs some skill to use the passive always and tires your hand a little more and micro-thinking required.

    I enjoy Caitlyn ATM.

  59. Her passive is actually very easy to handle. U just have to use attackmove :)

  60. KingoftheSocksJanuary 31, 2015

    Not when they come up against my ryze mid.

    (Please note ryze is not a counter to ahri, hell I'm not even a good ryze, I just carried against an ahri as ryze and feel like a god)

  61. At last, Akali is dead YEAAAAAH (sorry i just hate her)

  62. Hero of the Vashta Nerada (ShaJanuary 31, 2015

    I'm surprised too. Swain has become a huge solid pick for me, and I find losses very scattered when I'm playing him.
    Yes, SSJ, what is your opinion on the new Tristana? I've had some good games and some bad games with her.

  63. Thoughts on Jax with the meta of bruisers returning? Also any ideas on good adcs to play in the current meta of cc gapclose monsters?

  64. Okay. but maybe i dont like that. But yes.. She is so fun to play and good.

  65. KingoftheSocksJanuary 31, 2015

    Set your attack movev to shift click and never miss a hop

  66. KingoftheSocksJanuary 31, 2015

    Man screw akali, more like poor Fizz, he never had the destructive power of akali but got hurt just as hard. I want my fish back rito

  67. Goeff SpunkerfitchenJanuary 31, 2015

    Well they did also buff the hextech gunblade; which is kinda like an indirect buff to her since she's the only champ I know that actually buys that item.

  68. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    Soon soon Kassadin will make his rise again

  69. AD ez mid is pretty decent at the moment, probably deserves to be put on this list in the balanced tier because its still all about landing your Q

  70. Katarina buffs? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    Good one.

  71. Nah she isn't dead yet. It's just that now unless it is your first game with akali you wont be able to faceroll as much. But if you played her at least one time she is still as strong.

  72. frenchdavid50January 31, 2015

    I respectfully disagree on Fizz mid. Now he only needs to land ONE skillshot to obliterate people. And that skillshot isn't hard to hit in a teamfight. So Fizz should AT LEAST be a Tier 1 mid,

  73. Ahri is hot grill.

  74. Daniel BlokhJanuary 31, 2015

    Um, Nautilus jungle?? Yeah, I get tha he's weak early game, but once he gets past 6 and drops off some of his amazing ganks in a few lanes, his mid game and late game are amazing. The reason for this is his AMAZING cc, which, if you build even as little as 2 tank items, makes him an unstoppable force that stops any of your enemies from reaching your carry.

  75. I don't understand, why Thresh is on t2 with Brand or Xerath? I think it's not rly good

  76. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    I don't see anything too different in Tristana so far, I think she's pretty much the same.

  77. I think Fizz AD bruiser jungle reserves tier 2, his output damage is insane with a BotRK and a Gauntlet + Tanky items

  78. KingoftheSocksJanuary 31, 2015

    Its not that he's bad but that he has a high skillcap and not everyone knows how to follow up on him. Also he's super squishy until he picks up a substantial amount of souls

  79. bturner4559January 31, 2015

    *goes to lolking sees he afkd his last game and cost his team the game in ranked. closes lolking in disgust*

  80. Armedbullster159January 31, 2015

    @SSJSuntastic while i agree completely that sivir is quite strong in this current meta and that her ult is extremely good in teamfights, i don't think that she's the best adc and also a very good adc in solo Q. Here's why. Sivir in reality isn't a very good adc herself. The reason why shes a highly contested pick in lcs is because of her ult which synergies extremely well with the current meta which is all about diving the back line and having champions like gnar, jarvan, lissandra, rengar having a speed boost to help them getting to the back line easier. In solo Q we rarely ever see players picking champions just because they sinergize extremely well with sivir ult, instead they pick champions which are extremely strong and specialize in something, for example many people are picking graves because of his insane burst potential early in the laning phase and the ability to scale well into late game and the fact he can wave clear quite decently. In reality as i stated at the beginning sivir isn't very good at all. She has one of the lowest ranges in the game standing at a poor 500, her late game is one of the worst of any adcs and the poor range makes it even worse for her considering how important positioning is in the late game. While i can agree that her ult is very strong and that she has good waveclear and she's decent in lane, i don't think that in solo Q especially in lower elos were players barely know what they are doing and teamfighting isn't a top priority for many players that her ult is enough to make her top of god tier. Personally the spell shield glitch is extremely rare and in fact in LCS sivir wasn't banned because of how rare the glitch was so honestly i don't think it was making as much of a difference regarding her position in the god tier. I would like to know your view behind sivir being so good in solo Q and why :)

  81. It's true that it's easy to land, but it is also easily blocked by tanks

  82. He was nearly just as bad

  83. Can't wait for Ziggs to rise again

  84. I'm putting less and less faith in this tier list, Thresh anything less then tier 1 is wrong. Hes right up there with Janna

  85. anthony abadiaJanuary 31, 2015

    wat show me statistic :O

  86. Nicolas CageJanuary 31, 2015

    Please defend your opinion instead of just stating it, so as to facilitate dialogue.

  87. He has the best overall toolkit of any support, He was not nerfed no others were buffed, nothing happened to other champions to make him have any less synergy, if anything sivir being the top ADC helps him her ult helping get thresh into range to toss hooks is powerful.

    In the LCS hes still a very often picked support, usually its him when they are not picking janna, I cant say that any other support on the entire list other then janna is "better" then him.

    There is no reason he should have come down on the tier list at all, let alone to tier 2.

  88. Nicolas CageJanuary 31, 2015

    The main reason Thresh is in Tier 2 is because of his kit taking a decent level of mastery to use correctly. Players in Bronze - Gold (this demographic is effectively given additional weighting in the list because of the extremely high proportion of players in them) are generally better off with other supports, who can more consistently contribute their utility than Thresh. A good example would be Blitzcrank, who is a fair bit easier to play and not far behind Thresh in terms of pure utility potential.

    Also, he did get nerfed a bit back, when they reduced his lantern's strength quite a bit. Thresh hasn't fully recovered from that one, though it wasn't a huge nerf.

    Thresh has insane potential as a support, certainly. If you learn Thresh thoroughly, he's definitely stronger than Tier 2.

    It's just that this list is put together with player skill taken into account, and the vast majority of players simply could stand to benefit from playing other supports more than Thresh.

    LCS is quite different from solo queue.

  89. New trist seems like trash. 45% winrate.

  90. Nicolas CageJanuary 31, 2015

    This patch in particular hurt Zed top and jungle quite a bit.

    The reduction of Zed's attack speed hurts him in extended trades (top), splitpushing (top and jungle) and jungle clearing (jungle).

    Oddly enough, mid-lane Zed is probably the least affected by the changes. Since Riot's more concerned with Zed as a mid-laner anyways, the changes aren't too bad for Zed mid.

    I'd agree with SSJ's placement of Zed as a Tier 2 mid-laner (maybe bottom of Tier 1). I think he's a mid-low Tier 3 top and jungle.

  91. Ziggs meta was fucking horrednous. He would get an Athene's then sit at tower farming and poking while you couldn't do anything.

  92. Because he's been nerfed into the gutter.

  93. KingoftheSocksJanuary 31, 2015

    initial thoughts on tristana

    Her new kit overall is very solid and she feels pretty similar to the old trist. Her new e is fantastic and feels great to use and in early trades is pretty powerful. Her late game is still amazing and her new e compliments that

    However her stats nerfs are painful, less health amd regen and her paasive giving less range keeps her at a similar level to last patchs trist. Obviously its still early days but her win rate is still lowish.

    i feel like with practise she could be T1, she appears to fair better in the mid game now but her late game was nerfed which kinda kills her theme of a late game hypercarry. I'd say with her even better tower killing/pushing abilities and decent late and easier mid game she's roughly on par with ashe. But as we find out more about her I would see her roughly top end of T1

  94. Nicolas CageJanuary 31, 2015

    He has great CC, that's for sure.

    It's just that he has almost no damage contribution. Champions like Sejuani and Jarvan IV are comparable in utility, but also do a lot of damage.

    Nautilus is probably a high Tier 2 jungler in my eyes.

  95. Hee has been considered god tier since any nerf for many patches, this is the only tier list hes tier 2 on. All of the other ones have him much higher, hence why im about done with this tier list.

  96. KingoftheSocksJanuary 31, 2015

    Looking at the t1 and above supports I find it hard to say that thresh is a better solo q support seeing on his reliance of him teamates and how easy it is to misplay with him. Ssj has stated his reasons for taric, most of the other supports are either burst mages or who are incredibly hard to screw up on. Which make them more reliable when you have no idea who you are supporting And reliability is a key factor in this tier list. In a ranked 5s tier list Thresh would be an easy tier 1, maybe even god but in yoloq you have to learn how to reliably carry yourself

  97. dont get why nunu jungle is so low.
    you can secure every buff, counter jungle, secure most dragon/baron, a slow with 4 secs cd, and you can give your adc attck speed + movement speed.

  98. Hello Bturner. That actually wasn't my fault. My internet service provider, verizon, had internet outages right when my game was starting so I couldn't even join the game, which you can see that I didn't even buy anything. I have never afk'd before and I already feel bad enough about it, so no need to comment about it here.

  99. after early game he falls over alot, starts to do nothing mid and late game, and can't really kill anyone 1v1 or isn't as helpful as other junglers 2v2

  100. You are wrong and if you don't like the tier list than leave, i am quite fond of this tier list.

  101. http://www.lolking.net/champions/ahri&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

  102. DivideByInfinityJanuary 31, 2015

    Is there any ad assassins that are really sticking out in the meta?
    I would like to purchase one.

  103. BoltOfSpadesJanuary 31, 2015

    Well, you see SSJ, with certain champs like Hecarim, no buff will ever be big enough for them to become FotM *cough* Galio *cough*.

  104. can you not read?

  105. but no where as good compared to udyr or warwick so case closed.

  106. too squishy, not safe enough, cooldown on e is too high, not enough wave clear, very easy to deal with.

  107. nah, he isn't that good in all match ups, hes still a viable counter pick if you know who you are going against, ig a mage of some sort.

  108. no retard, learn to play fizz.

  109. i somewhat agree, he really could be shut down early game and the only way to come back was his crazy damage potential, very easy to zone him out early game, i don't think we will see much of fizz anymore, rip the slippery fish.

  110. no wave clear, squishy, high mana costs, not a good champion imo.

  111. with assassins nerfed i could definetly see a comeback for kog maw. personally i dont play him because hes not very fun but for anyone who likes him nows ur time to shine

  112. BoltOfSpadesJanuary 31, 2015

    Oh, well that's not very nice.

  113. Trash in the first week? Release yasuo had that winrate so did azir and kalista. They are definitely not trash. Give them time.

  114. talon is one of the last ad assassins standing

  115. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    i think you're wrong comparing nunu to a damage dealer,he's pretty much only an utility jungler and his e shouldn't be used for damage but for the op atk spd reduction on it.
    Also his ultimate while it could look subpar is very very good for peeling for your ad carry and bloodboil is just op lategame

  116. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    i really don't know about kha mid,after the nerfs now he's no more played

  117. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    i'm gonna miss the poor fish,he wasn't so op at all if you could bodyblock his ult as a tank

  118. u have no idea how many threshes out there dont know how to flay...

  119. imagine ahri without dfg in season 4(pre buffs)! think about that for a second because that is what fizz is now
    if u dont know what im saying, ahri and fizz are heavily reliant on landing charm and chum the waters
    the only difference is ahri has amazing AP ratios atm while fizz lost utility and damage

  120. Kevin NicolasJanuary 31, 2015

    I'm surprised Leblanc isn't higher

  121. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    imho she's weaker,they took her late game power and shifted to early/mid game and as result she doesn't shine in every stage of the game imho
    early game is too hard to place a fully charged E since you get completely outtraded cause of you're base stats nerfs and as a result sometimes you ends up doing even less damage than the previous E
    mid game was buffed a bit but we are still here,you lacks burst outside of you ulti so "no ulti no party",your e deals pretty good damage if you menaged to hit someone 4 times
    late game is overall nerfed,you really don't give a fu*k about E's explosion and you desire the healing reduction a lot more than some burst damage,also the range nerf with the atk spd nerfs are very noticeable
    maybe i'm wrong and she's op but looking at her winrate not so much changed and she is still on 48%

  122. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    why?because she can kill everyone?sadly a lot of people just can do pretty much only the q-w combo with a random e and a lot of times you'll see sigils that won't procs resulting in enemy laner chilling with 50-60% of their hp farming and outscaling you.
    she can't roam well if you don't know how to properly use your distortion and land your chains(ok they're very big chains but they are still shillshots).
    her late game sucks if you can't pick their carries and escape away and this is one of the aspects where dfg removal hurted leblanc since late game you need to be able to burst their carries in a matter of seconds before being bursted down

  123. Charlie JamesJanuary 31, 2015

    kha still good

  124. not as a top lane, if he can't get a squishy match up, he gets shut down really hard which is why you see him played in the mid lane because people tend to play more squishys in that lane.

  125. she has the second highest winrate in the game how is she not the best adc?

  126. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    But Kassadins been seeing alot of play lately he is recirculating in the meta and has been been frequented as a top and mid laner in high elo games

  127. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    not only him
    xerath,vel koz and other immobile mages are gonna raising again(even ziggs)

  128. BoltOfSpadesJanuary 31, 2015

    I have some statistics that support his claim. 48% win rate. Thresh loses more games than he wins and these other tier lists call him god tier? What elo are THEY targeting?

  129. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    talon and zed are the only viable ad assassins in the mid lane(maybe kha zix?)
    zed is too hard to use properly but if you menage to learn him is pretty easy to carry games with.

    talon is the only very viable ad assassin in every level,strong burst and strong waveclear,i suggest you to buy him

  130. wukong onlyJanuary 31, 2015

    Try wukong, noone ever expects it so they don't know how to lane against him and makes for one of the best ad assassins.

  131. I think Morde mid can go down a little now. Without DFG, it's VERY hard to kill their adc now, unless they are completely stupid and walk right up to you.

  132. They dont have that mobilty

  133. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    oh no i forgot to mention the monkey master D:

  134. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    He's very squishy, he's super nerfed. Needs a lot of knowledge and skill.

  135. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    If you have sivir ult on you, why would you want to stop and then throw a delayed single target skillshot with the chance to miss? Why not just nail the entire team with leona ult?

  136. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015


  137. He's always been a really great AP assassin, especially vs mages, but now that Fizz's ult gives him a free DFG that will probably change...

  138. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Not... For now.

    I think Diana or Kassa will rises soon.

  139. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Should be added in tier 3. Imo.

  140. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    hello everyone,i've got 2 questions about champions placement and i would be happy if you can answer me ^^
    -is teemo still tier 1 worthy?
    sorry but he is no more the monster he used to be,his laning phase is undoubtely good but his lack of cc or mobility outside of w makes dealing the final blow very difficult and you'll have to burn flash for deal the final auto of the death a lot of times.
    pre-6 he's maybe the easier champ to gank and post-6 placing shrooms kills his mana pool and he become a bit useless in lane
    also you can counter him just with an early mres item and is not that hard to get close to him since he lack a fast escape like gnar or kennen.
    one last things,his shrooms:if teemo is hybrid they're a bit useless,otherwise if teemo is full ap they chunks you but a lot of teemos just don't know where to place they're shrooms

    -is irelia really the strongest top laner?
    she has got a powerful mid game but her early game is very weak and her late game despite popular belief is just decent and nothing more.
    Is too easy to bully her off cs and she becomes very useless without an early trinity,she's like "time to freeze lane and beg jungler to gank"
    actually there are a lot of champion with a strong early AND mid game like renekton or pantheon who are more user friendly than her and don't requires the skill of freezing lane or to trade at the very exact moment or to use ult's procs for activate sheen.
    you said that she can snowball off a losing lane but i don't agree with that,if she doesn't get a trinity in at least 20/25 minutes she's pratically deleted from the game,maybe i've only faced bad irelias and i'm not a really good irelia's player but she isn't worth the first spot of the god tier for what i saw.
    Speaking about win rate,it doesn't mean anything but she's actually on 50%,not bad but not good to justify a really high position

    those are my thoughts and i could have said something retarded but i can't really answer those questions myself so i will be happy if you can help me.

  141. Dunno, champs like talon are still extremely effective if you play them correctly, and as DFG's been removed, your(most likely AP) enemy mid laner won't be able to oneshot you like you oneshot him, so yeah.... Also the immobile mages(except xerath with his massive range) who normally don't build DFG will have a hard time vs Talon or Zed.

  142. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    AGREE. I want to Riot nerf her again, tier 4 plsss

  143. If you need to use your E more often than your cd allows for it, then you need better positioning for trading/farming. Simple as that.

  144. Charlie JamesJanuary 31, 2015

    i feel like kass is the best ap assasin due to the removal of dfg , but thats just me ....

  145. Annie buff? Allow me to disagree being a main plat 2 support Annie. E now provides less armor and magic resist making her more squishy than before, when she was already squishy as ****. Sometimes your life depends whether enemy Leona, Thresh, Blitz catches up to you where you would instantly pop E, facing even then almost guarantee death and now it provides less defences. They now added armor and magic resist on Tibbers which is completely useless because no one, not even in wooden elo, would focus Tibbers. And the speed buff for the outstanding duration of 0.75 sec is just, wow, you don't need speed on Tibbers, just stun and R enemy... Trading armor and magic resist for a pet that none would ever focus and speed is definitely a nerf for me...

  146. I'd prefer to call them 'power shifts' or 'tweaks' :D

  147. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    I think that Anivia, Malzahar, Karthus and Xerath will be rises soon. In fact, their win rate is growing up.

    Then we will see again Diana and Kassa?

  148. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    I don't know, low range mages will rise. That isn't good for Kassa.

  149. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Ashe is tier 1 since 4 or 5 patchs ago.

    Simply, she has the second most large range in the game. She has a permaslow to quite a lot. In early game she isn't WOW SHE IS SO OP, but she is ok. Her midgame is insane like her lategame.

    Her ultimate is... Wow. Ok, she "don't have scape". But she has a lot of range, one of the best kite in the game, stun...

  150. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    Kassadin does well against most AP mages long or short range because of his passive thats just so cheap I mean srly 15% reduced damage is is really strong plus his instantaneous shield from q allows for quick damage mitigation for safe trades plus he has phenomenonal roaming

  151. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    I think Teemo should be tier 2 at highest because when it comes to teamfights he has 0 presence unless you are dumb enough to step on a 5 man shroom field, he instantly get deleted because of how squishy he is and only people in bronze or silver dont buy sweepers to clear shis rooms plus the new raptor buff basically counters him. While on Irelia she scales really well off the Trinity force allowing her to go full tank and still deal damage plus the massive amounts of tenacity she has in teamfights makes her an excellent front line tank which is expected of top laners

  152. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    Morde buffs in 5.3 according to a dev blog so we just gotta rough it for now

  153. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    Annie isnt necessarily a front line tank despite flash stun tibbers she should just stay in the back line idf you can. And a simple rota and hourglass should compensate for squishiness

  154. lol. noob, learn to riven, she shuts down ezreal in to time flat

  155. Who do you expect to shine? Im hoping for Ori, because i mean, who doesnt love watching a good shockwave?

  156. i bet nobody remembers Force of Nature :(

  157. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DJanuary 31, 2015

    swain isn't god tier simply because.....i don't really know,maybe ssj fears the "god tier vel'koz super flame"(such good times XD)

  158. Actually she is really good, the problem is that she has a high skillcap, and that she is really ahrd to use in team fights othern than that she is amazing.
    Btw this tier list is for how consisten these champions are not how powerful, if it was one of their power then lb is got tier withuth dooubt

  159. FoN + Old Warmog+ Leviathan... good old times

  160. Taher AnklebreakerJanuary 31, 2015

    Well then.
    Ummm... I won the first 6 games of my placement matches and lost the last 4 and got placed into Bronze 3??? Even though I ended off in Silver 4 in Season 4??
    What's going on.

  161. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    I think, if Zed top is in the list he should be tier 3. And everybody tells: OMG WHY ZED TIER 3 WTF REPORT FUCKING NOB

  162. AD is lame...its like troll build you gonna build ad for your autoattack and your pet vs 4 excellent spell that deals massive AP damage!
    How many times i killed at least 2 players because they are both low and my E channeled from one to the other! Its really bad ass :)

    Also the pet is not very resistant and die over time...
    Another great asset which his is con with Malzahar is that you can annoy most toplaner by automaticly pushing lane under enemy turret without any effort (Thanks to E spell) and when i mean without any effort it meant its cost mana efficient but require to perfectionize your auto attack mechanic and also only blame yourself and not the rest of the team if you get ganked i mean pre 6 you gonna be in trouble but post 6 you might dominate 1v2 situation if you handle malzahar good enough but i feel he is better toplane than midlane (im a midlaner my self) and i feel malzahar is kinda more vulnérable midlane by an inch (but thats my preference and nothing else! make your own experience and be the judge of your taste :))

    Sorry man but im not fan of exotic stuff such as malzahar AD...
    here is a potato for my long answer > 0

  163. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Because he is a sack of potatoes in mid and late game. And his early game isn't too strong.

  164. TheHappyLonerJanuary 31, 2015

    Why is there no Zed Top?

  165. and still he didn't add it...he really hate me & malzahar!

  166. Thanks for detailed answer. I don't play Zed by myself but he is probably one of the hardest match-up for me in general, so I'm trying to keep eye on him. I think now I understand better what this nerf did to him.

  167. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    The best way they could give a buff to Mordekaiser is by reworking his W. Instead of giving him a shield it should become a hard cc or an escape because thats one of the reasons I stopped playing him because if you get caught out fron shoving to hard, which you will because your Morde huehuehue, your screwed especially if they have hard lockdown like Jarvan or Vi. They should also update his characte model so no longer has pizza feet

  168. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Completly disagree.

    Every popular pick synergizes with Sivir's ult except Thresh (Leona, Jarvan, Sejuani, Morgana, Vi, Ahri, Annie, Pantheon, Zed, Braum, Irelia, Jax, Lissandra, Yi, Xin, Gnar, Nasus, etc). Jarvan IV, Lissandra, Rengar or Gnar are extremely used in Solo Q.

    Her early is very secure if you know how use your E and your passive.

    What? Really? Her late game if one of the worst!? What is the problem with have 500 of range? You have a double boost of MS (your passive and your ultimate) You have a reset of AA, you have a spellshield... He has one of the best positioning in late game. She can make damage, run, make damage, shield, etc.

    In that case Graves should be tier 3. He has a poor range and only a E with a lot of CD.

    So, she has the second highest winrate. She is the best ADC right now.

  169. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Sejuani, Jarvan, Amumu, etc. They do the same job, but better. That's the problem. But Nautilus is ok.

  170. Why did wukong get bumped down?

  171. Nicolas CageJanuary 31, 2015

    You realize I wasn't responding to your comment, right?

  172. XxInfinityxXJanuary 31, 2015

    I think the extra armor and magic resist can help it not get blown up to fast in teamfights and let Tibbers do that small, but kind of reliable AoE damage it has from being on fire. It can also tank more turret shots getting turrets down faster.

  173. syndra got a buff?

  174. XxInfinityxXJanuary 31, 2015

    I agree with Spideraxe30, Teemo should be a high tier 2. But Irelia is very well at all stages of the game. Her stun on E is just as reliable as the slow sometimes and you will lose most trades do to a stun>W>Q>AA. She also can buy Dorans blade early for more lifesteal, which helps remove damage from trades, early or Dorans shield for more tankiness and sustain.

  175. Nicolas CageJanuary 31, 2015

    You didn't say anything at all in response to what I wrote, which was an explanation of why he's Tier 2.

    If you don't want to read that and argue about details as to why Thresh is Tier 2, then you aren't really offering anything compelling other than "people disagree with you so you're wrong".

  176. XxInfinityxXJanuary 31, 2015

    Lucian has 500 range but he still wrecks despite the nerfs they hit him with these past few months.

  177. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    If you check the intro area of this post you can find the fotm tier list, which I think is what you're looking for.

  178. XxInfinityxXJanuary 31, 2015

    Did you just say that Udyr and Warwick aren't mobile? Couldn't tell from Warwicks Blood Scent and Udyr's Bear Stance with a Triforce.

  179. Lol I can vouch for sivir.. I went from bronze 4 to gold 5 in 40 games with her..

  180. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    I think I may have deleted it by accident. That would explain why I had two zed jungles. Will add it back later tonight.

  181. SSJSuntasticJanuary 31, 2015

    I originally called it a nerf and saintvicious called it a huge buff...not that I rely on his opinion at all, but now that I look closely at it, she seems to be largely the same with a little buff based on the numbers. Let's call it a tweak.

  182. Maining Wukong, I'm going to assume same reason with Fiora. The meta is going more towards tanky- and Wukong has a horrible time with tanks (Malphite, Renekton, Garen, etc) in early laning phase.

  183. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Malphite, Renekton, Sion, Jarvan.

  184. Is Yorick top viable?

  185. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015


  186. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    What? Weren't ranked resets a few days ago

  187. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    You ended off Silver IV before reset or before Season 4? (4.20)

  188. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    Hah combo that with an Atma a frozen mallet and trinity force you'll be a unkillable

  189. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    She has the same problems when LB was tier 1. LB is tier 3 after her silence nerf.

  190. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    He need snowball.

  191. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    Ashe + Atma + Frozen Mallet + Warmog.

  192. I've been gone for so long, sup SSJ!

    Anyway, I wanna point out I agree Fiora top isn't very good. Far too easy to counter. I'd rather play her mid because it's harder to counter her there and I have no problem 100-0ing people in no time. But I actually stopped playing her, her ult nerf sucked. Her ult was gamebreakingly strong when fed, and that's why I liked her. Now she's just another assassin.

    Hell, I've been playing mostly Panth/Riven/Kat trying to climb back up to Dia. I can vouch that Panth feels strong in the jungle.

  193. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    Isn't Master Yi an AD assassin who has a shit load snowball potential. But if your referring to AD casters Talon might be the last one but he isn't fully untouched cough* silence nerf cough*

  194. Exevier EtcheverryJanuary 31, 2015

    I don't think that Teemo mid is tier 2...

  195. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    While I believe Xerath and Brand should be a lower tier then Thresh, Thresh has a fair share of popular disengage counters in the bot lane with Morgana and Janna to name a few plus Thresh's utility can't fully be utilized in lower elos as well as can't stand early against tank supports with their higher base damages and them being naturally tank and superior cc like Leona's Solar Flare or Alistar's Pulverize which set up ganks really well but in the right hands Thresh's kit still has a ton of utility but frankly those other supports are more easy and forgiving

  196. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    The only problem I had with the old Fizz was his Grievpus Wounds and Percentage damage which made him a counter to tanks but he still has a lot of utility like Tidal Trickster and the new damage amp on ult

  197. Spideraxe30January 31, 2015

    Fiora is still garbage tier in my eyes as well no cc, no escape,no bursty abilities besides ult, in melee range, needs summoners to secure kills, countered hard by Randuins,Thornmail and Frozen Heart, as well as shitty rip off Aegis of Protection and Counter Strike plus Fiora is garbage when behind

  198. Why Maokai fell so hard from Godtier?


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