Feb 28, 2015

2015 Champion Tier List - Solo Queue - Patch 5.4 Update

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Launching alongside the R.I.P. Kassadin patch is a slew of new features on the Nerfplz tier list, which is receiving a slight facelift to go along with the new directives you've likely seen floating around the site. Let me know what you think! This list features

SEASON 5 - PATCH 5.4 SOLO QUEUE TIER LIST
"Division Climbers"

This List has been updated, and new versions are available via this link

Preface Chatter

Hi everyone and welcome back to just another solo queue tier list...or is it? Coupled with a "few" other new directives you may have seen around the site, the tier list is also getting a slight overhaul.

It's been a long ride since the very beginnings of this list, and together as a community we've seen a strong shift from haters to imitators. From heated debates to amazing insights, I'd like to thank each and every one of you for the strong positive feedback I've seen on the site lately! Also, the amount of friendly advice I've seen dispensed to players asking questions simply makes me glow. Anyway, enough with the sappiness. and on to the main event!

Welcome all to the R.I.P. Kassadin patch, in which our brave voidwalker is but a shade of his former self. Meanwhile, as some of you correctly noted, I chiseled out the grave markers for Katarina a little too soon. Apparently, while her ability to reset off assists (10 second damage timer) was beneficial to her success, Katarina's new 3 second window is still more than enough for her to be a force of her own. Check out the full list below!
If you're looking for a more meta based tier list based on popularity, be sure to check out the FOTM list as well!
For a list of champions with the highest *potential* in the game without regard to difficulty or team synergies, check out the list of strongest potential champions in each position!

Patch 5.4  Summary
Buffs: Mordekaiser, Syndra
Nerfs: Jarvan, Kalista, Kassadin, Katarina, Veigar, Xerath
Tweaks: Janna, Zilean

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Updates:
  • Added Taric top and Ezreal mid.
  • 2/28: Moved Fizz jungle up, added explanation for Veigar; 
    • Hecarim Top moved up
    • Leblanc mid moved up, Zed mid moved down
    • Added Malzahar Top
  • 3/3: Moved Morgana Top and Nidalee top higher
    • Jungle Zac and Jax moved down
    • Jungle Kha'zix and Shyvana moved up
    • Vlad Mid moved up
  • 3/5: Gangplank jungle moved down
  • 3/6: Annie support moved up
    • Added Hecarim top explanation
    • Veigar Mid moved back up to T3

The Tier List

God Tier [Highest Influence]:
Mid-Lane Gods: Annie, Katarina
Jungle Gods: Vi, Fiddlesticks, Sejuani
AD Gods: Jinx, Sivir, Graves
Top Lane Gods: Irelia, Swain, Sion, Wukong
Support Gods: Leona, Blitzcrank, Janna

God Tier Rising: Janna (T1), Annie (T1)
God Tier Falling: Wukong

Tier 1 [Strong/Preferred Choices]:
Mid-Lane: Morgana, Ahri, Malzahar, Swain, Vel'Koz, Karthus, Xerath, Anivia, Talon, Diana, Wukong, Brand, Cassiopeia, Nidalee, Zyra, Kennen, Heimerdinger
Jungle: Rek'Sai, Wukong, Nidalee, Hecarim, AmumuJarvan IV, Shaco, Sion
AD Carry: Ashe, Draven, Corki, Kalista, Miss Fortune, Caitlyn
Top LaneHecarimFiora, Tryndamere, Malphite, Kennen, Lissandra, Renekton, Nasus, Rumble, Vladimir, Riven, Rek'Sai, Pantheon
Support: Sona, Morgana, Taric, Annie, Nami, Zyra, Vel'Koz

Tier 1 Rising: Anivia, Ashe, Fiora, Hecarim, Karthus, Kennen (T2), Morgana (T2), Shaco (T2), Xerath
Tier 1 Falling: Ahri (God), Cassiopeia, Jarvan IV (God), Kalista, Nidalee (God)

Tier 2 [Viable/Balanced Choices]:
Mid-Lane: Lissandra, Vladimir, Orianna, Leblanc, Zed, Cho'Gath, Kayle, Pantheon, Lux, Ziggs, Viktor, Karma, Mordekaiser, Twisted Fate, Galio, Ezreal (AD), Teemo
Jungle: Pantheon, Warwick, Nunu, Fizz, Xin Zhao, Volibear, Udyr, Maokai, Rammus, Lee Sin, Nautilus, Master Yi, Diana, Skarner, Kha'Zix, Kayle, Cho'Gath, Shyvana, Rengar, Poppy, Aatrox, Malphite, Irelia, Karthus, Nasus, Olaf, Trundle
AD Carry: Tristana, Varus, Ezreal, Lucian, Vayne, Kog'Maw
Top Lane: Singed, Cassiopeia, Darius, Gnar, Fizz, Morgana, Heimerdinger, Malzahar, Maokai, Nidalee, Jarvan IV, Gangplank, Teemo, Jax, Volibear, Warwick, Rengar, Dr. Mundo, Zed, Trundle, Aatrox, Udyr, Karma, Garen, Lee Sin, Jayce, Lulu, Shyvana, Kayle, Cho'gath, Olaf, Yorick, Xin Zhao, Poppy, Viktor, Kha'Zix, Quinn, Vi
Support: Thresh, Braum, Soraka, Fiddlesticks, Alistar, Lulu, Xerath, Karma, Brand

Tier 2 Rising: Cho'Gath (Mid T3), Fizz (Jung T3), Kayle, Leblanc, Morgana (Top - T3), Nunu (T2), Singed
Tier 2 Falling: Darius, Heimerdinger (Top T1), Jarvan IV (Top God), Skarner (T1), Teemo (T1), Zed

Tier 3 [Needs Higher Skill/Knowledge Than Usual]:
Mid-Lane: Lulu (AP), Akali, Jayce, Fizz, Syndra, Zilean, Master Yi, Gragas, Jarvan IV, Fiora, Yasuo, Sona, Riven, Fiddlesticks, Ryze, Kha'Zix, Sejuani, Malphite, Tristana, Kog'maw, Ezreal (AP), Veigar, Elise
Jungle: Nocturne, Gangplank, Zac, Jax, Fiora, Zed, Malzahar, Leona, Dr. Mundo, Elise, Shen, Gragas, Riven, Darius, Yorick, Evelynn, Tryndamere
AD Carry: Quinn, Twitch, Twisted Fate, Kennen
Top Lane: Shen, Akali, Master Yi, Talon, Galio, Taric,  Ryze, Rammus, Mordekaiser, Gragas, Zac, Alistar, Yasuo, Leblanc, Vayne, Nunu, Urgot, Elise
Support: Nautilus, Lux, Gragas, Maokai, Volibear, Zilean, Nunu, Kayle, Malphite, Nidalee, Anivia, Teemo, Lee Sin, Gangplank

Tier 3 Rising: Talon, Fizz (Jungle), Nidalee (Support)
Tier 3 Falling: Gragas, Teemo (Support), Veigar (T3), Zac

Tier 4 [Low Benefits for Effort Used]:
Mid-Lane: Kassadin, Urgot, Azir, Soraka, Janna
Jungle: Yasuo, Garen
AD Carry: Urgot
Top Lane: Azir, Kassadin, Soraka
Support: Orianna, Veigar,  Poppy, Elise, Galio, Syndra, Shen, Yorick, Lissandra, Ashe, Leblanc

Tier 4 Rising:
Tier 4 Falling: Azir (T3), Kassadin (T3), Syndra (T3 Support)

Instructions and Caveats:

  • Champions in BOLD I will talk about shortly
  • Champions UNDERLINED may be over/undervalued, but aren't/haven't played enough for me to make a better judgement.
  • Within each tier the champions are strongest from left to right, but within a tier each champion's strength is relatively close. This is especially true for Tiers 2 and 3 where these champions are ALL highly playable and player dependent on how strong they are in-game.
  • This tier list takes data from ALL players; however, since the majority of players fall in the first three tiers, the majority of data points will come from there.
  • Win Rates are important in analyzing each champion's strength, but are not the end-all criteria for any champion's position.
  • The creator of this list is diamond, so there may be some personal bias towards higher tier play on certain champions.

Champion Explanations

  • Annie [God Tier Mid] - Annie's surge to God Tier may surprise some of you, while others lie perfectly unimpressed with an "I told you so" grin on their faces. As a "cyclical" champion that comes back around every time other champions are nerfed, Annie's burst damage, harassing power, and CC are far higher than other the other FOTM champions currently on the rift. With nerfs on Ahri and Katarina, her mid lane win rate is extremely high.
  • Ashe [Tier 1 ADC] - As a result of her amazing synergy with high CC burst teams (read Lissandra), Ashe does very well on the rift at the moment. As an AD carry she's fairly average mid game with a debatable late game. However, the burst damage and CC that she provides with her ultimate is a time-proven skill that is again rising as other AD carries are nerfed, allowing her to get through her laning phase fairly easily.
  • Azir [Tier 4 Mid/Top] - Despite the fancy plays that Azir can make, he's the exact opposite of Lee Sin's phrase "Force is meaningless without skill". In Azir's case, "Skill is meaningless without force". As a result of his range and damage nerfs, he simply can't hang with the other champions on the rift anymore.
  • Ezreal (AD) [Tier 2 Mid] - Despite being a fairly unconventional pick in the Western servers, Ezreal as a midlaner is very popular in the East. As a mid laner Ezreal does fairly well as an ADC as he provides good poke and waveclear if he builds blue. Additionally, as junglers tend to donate blue buff to their mid laners regardless, Ezreal scales up very fast. He's still a somewhat higher skillcap champion and doesn't quite have the burst of regular AP mids, but his sustained damage is much higher.
  • Fiora [Tier 1 Top] - I'm bringing back Fiora up higher, as she's still a force to be reckoned with. I think that in her current state she's somewhat counterable, but her ability to burst down back lines and come out at full health is still absolutely terrifying.
  • Fizz [Tier 2 Top] - Despite being an extremely popular flavor of the month go-to pick at the moment, Fizz still does relatively average at the moment. His ability to snowball when fed is somewhat terrifying with blade of the ruined king, but part of that is simply the shock factor from seeing a Fizz attack that fast. He still has room for counterplay, and I think that right now it's simply a matter of difficulties facing someone unusual rather than him actually being super strong.
  • Jarvan IV [Tier 1 Jungle] - Nerfs on J4 were actually extremely effective, and I think a drop is in order. He's still good for the utility he provides, but the reduction in the amount of free stats he gets definitely hurts him a ton. 
  • Kassadin [Tier 4 Mid/Top] - R.I.P. Riftwalker. As expected, when you cripple his main "OP" skill for a minor mana reduction to compensate, bad things happen to his success rate.
  • Katarina [God Tier Mid] - Despite the change on her passive mechanic, Katarina remains an extremely powerful pick. With her burst damage in most scenarios, she's the aggressor and can easily reset since she's not even trying for assists...just kills. We'll see if the next few days result in a bigger change in her success rate, but for now it seems to be a very low impact change despite first glance.
  • Kennen [Tier 1 Top] - Kennen's buffs many patches back have really made him quite consistently good. I think we'll see more play on him soon. He still remains an unpopular pick simply because he hasn't been in the spotlight for so long.
  • Morgana [Tier 1 Mid] - Morgana is another of those cyclical champions that hasn't been touched in a while and is now insanely strong compared to the rest of the pool. Her laning phase is extremely safe, and two binds pre-6 can easily take down an enemy mid laner. Additionally, with her strong pushing skills and snare, she's one of the few champions that can reliably push level 1 and roam bot for a quick attempt for a kill.
  • Nidalee [Tier 1 Jungle] - That "cooldown bug" that Riot fixed apparently had a sizable effect on her jungle. Sizable being that she's still very strong, just not absolutely broken with slightly reduced jungle clearing power.
  • Syndra [Tier 3 Mid] - Somewhat stronger with the buff, she's still a relatively high skillcap champion in her current rendition.
  • Taric [Tier 3 Top] - I know you guys wanted Taric up on the tier list so I've added him. That being said, I think that bringing Taric top is somewhat ineffective, especially because his in-lane sustain is so good with a partner. It heals himself as much as it heals his partner, and when cast on himself it's only 40% more effective (vs a 200% total). He's a decent counterpick against an all-AD team though.
  • Teemo [Tier 2 Top] - With more and more long range mages coming back into the fold top lane, Teemo is suffering as his ability to bully and cheese is drastically reduced.
  • Veigar [Tier 4] - Veigar's new changes essentially took away everything that made him a a gimmick champion that greatly benefited those who mastered him. While extremely difficult to be consistent with him, he offered little in the way of counterplay with his instantaneous stun. Now, with the delay incorporated into his ability the counterplay potential has increased exponentially.
  • Vi [Jungle God] - Nerfing Jarvan without nerfing Vi has comparatively increased her power drastically.
  • Zac [Tier 3 Top] - Surprisingly, Zac actually doesn't have a very high success rate. I think he still has potential, but really needs to be in the correct team composition to be effective. He'll likely get buffs sometime in the future as his current state though.

Disclaimer:

  • The purpose of this list is for discussion and to provide a starting point for hero selection.

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875 comments:

  1. If you know the trick Mordekaiser is already powerful why is he get buff

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  2. What are your thoughts about adding top sona as a tier 3 pick? She can bully non tanky tops and after buying a tear she can easily heal any poke she takes. When she hits 6 she can set up easy kills for her jungle and her speed up/slow synergizes well with the longer lane. Also she can pull off amazing tp ults in the bot lane if timed right. I know that it isn't meta but I've had some success with her. It also helps that she is an extremely easy champ to play and hard cc=wins

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  3. Maybe rito doesn't want evil to win?

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  4. Buff? The ruined my AD Morde huehue

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  5. Kind of funny how you listed Mordekaiser as a "buffed". If you really look at it, it was a nerf. Q and W health costs were reduced slightly. These two skills were never spammed, so their health costs were never a problem. If they were going to reduce health costs on him, they should've lowered his E's health cost; 72 at max level. Without any reliable sustain, you'll slowly kill yourself. As if his early game wasn't bad enough, they thought that these slight health cost changes would require his health regen to be cut in half. Yes, in half. His health regen is a little higher than Riven's now (she has no costs!).

    Yes, they added little things to his kit like the +75 range on Q, which isn't noticeable at all.The very situational movement speed boost. Oh yeah, the lowered his W's damage to add that on. His ult was also drastically changed. Not even a good change. Most of the time, you're ulting their ADC. Now you don't gain any of their AD stats, you instead gain some of their bonus health (since when did ADCs stack health?). Ulting ADCs has become less useful now, but still not USELESS.

    I just really hope they look at Morde more, because his winrate has dropped from 52% to 49% since the patch. I've played him since the updates, and his early game is much, much worse. You can't push or harass as much without killing yourself now. His lategame is still similar to what it was before though.

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  6. Exevier EtcheverryFebruary 28, 2015

    Why Heimerdinger top is moved down? He's a very solid pick, with the highest winrate and considering that 40% of his games are in top... Well, he counter a lot of champions, practically he bully every melee champion and he counter every popular pick. Like Irelia, Lissandra, Rumble, Swain, Fiora, etc.

    Explanation about Veigar tier 4? (He is bold) And for a reason unknown to me, he is played a lot as support by pro players. (http://imgur.com/AgMjqR9)

    About Evelynn, her win rate rose fairly since last patch (40% -> 47%). She's still has a good mechanics to gank, thanks to her passive and W if you are opportunistic you can get the gold to be a good Evelynn in lategame. Her build her full AD or tank can works. At least she is better than Darius or Shyvana.

    About Gangplank jungler. He is player lower than 3% of his games, he does not has mechanics to jungling good and his ganks is not the great thing. If Tryndamere is tier 3 in my opinion Gangplank should be tier 4.

    Thoughts about Kog'Maw AP mid? I think that he's a bit more strong with changes in meta. He has a lot of burst and damage and his main counters was shut down... It's true that he need a bit of skill but he definitely should has a better place.



    That is for now, thanks you for your page and your tier list. ^^

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  7. Tier 1 Annie supp? Would be gud

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  8. Charles InnocentFebruary 28, 2015

    Compared to other supps in God/Tier 1 Annie isn't that great. Remember her key attribute is her burst damage, followed by her AoE CC. As a support, Annie relies heavily on flash+tibbers, which means her engagement outside of flash is rather average. Especially when you compare her to the AoE engage God Leona, who also just happens to do semi-decent damage and is tanky as hell. Annie also needs a good start in lane to do any form of damage by the 20 minute mark.

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  9. Charles InnocentFebruary 28, 2015

    I think Xerath #1 pick as you said, but kata at most ELO's right now is still incredible

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  10. DylanArrav RobertsFebruary 28, 2015

    Thanks a lot for posting ezreal AD mid!

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  11. then why rito created him?

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  12. Jax only tier 2... lol...on top he got safe lane with life quints and go higher and higher...

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  13. You forgot to add an veigar explanation @SSJ

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  14. I never thought I'd see the day when Urgot is ahead of Kassadin and Veigar. Also, what are your thoughts on Diana? I picked her up recently and honestly she feels like a tankier Akali with more consistent damage.

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  15. One day, Urgot will rise, not Shurima XD

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  16. Abuelo Master PaperFebruary 28, 2015

    Why is Anivia t1 list? A friend says she is so low on meta now. What are the explanations?

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  17. High skill cap and low popularity

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  18. Max PokornýFebruary 28, 2015

    I think Sona should be God Tier, as offensive support, her poke is incredible, and she scales greatly with ap, if you build her like that later on.

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  19. many people haven't adjusted to the pretty heavy nerf to his passive last patch, i think...

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  20. Really? i think he just shifted to a more tank focused champ... of course you can just say the W Speedbuff is situational but it is double the Resistances and potential DMG for FREE. And to the ult change: Correct you don't HAVE to ult an adc now so what? Ult a tank you'll get his health and get even more tankier. besides the ghost get's 25/50/100 attack damage as a bonus so literally everyone on the enemy team can be used for dmg/pushing later on... And it's not new that winrates drop after changes His pickrate went up so many players unsimilar with him tried him out so of course they loose o.O

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  21. Yeah I have to say kinda.. she is still a MONSTA :-/! But I dont think she is god tier TBH

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  22. Yeah he probably says because AOE Ultimate for those fights and hard to use needs skill, low popularity. and most importatnly lack of mobility utility

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  23. the thing is with Counters to her so popular atm (Leona, Blitz) she arely get the time to truly shine maybe she will get his chance when people start playing bard

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  24. No..... jax is pretty bad and requires loads of skill at the current state in top lane... so many annoying and crazy enemies in top. LifeSteal Quintessences though, can help nicely, but not enaugh always.


    In jungle he is interesting btw!!!!! he can be more safe in JGL and farm and snowball etc... AOE Stun

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  25. Yes he is strongish, stronk. but has been nerfed slowly over time many times and he is tier 1 at best

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  26. Are you just saying this because of the skin that came out...

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  27. Max PokornýFebruary 28, 2015

    lol no, I have played her for months now and she only seems to get more useful and powerful nowadays

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  28. Max PokornýFebruary 28, 2015

    I agree, with a good ADC pick though, she can poke hard and help the team carry, but I am from lower ELO so I can't speak for diamond players.

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  29. completely agree. the thing is just when a leona manages to engage on you HER ADC only needs half a brain to pop her ^-^

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  30. Xerath with his long range usually have a good laning phase and can be a lane bully. But around LoL (and some other MOBA games), there is some saying: "win lane, lose game" ,
    Generally speaking, winning the lane is simply give you some advantages counting as 1v1, there are other "team" factors like gank, roaming and skirmish/teamfight, etc.

    Typically Katarina doesn't have to have a strong laning phase, she just need to farm enough and starting from lv6 she can roam and help other lanes.


    For example, right when lv6 she can all-in the mid lane opponent, but if that's Xerath with full health and stay near turret; she just goes to bot lane where usually lv5 and QEWR to get double kill, then dragon and snowball ...
    On the other hand, Xerath do not have such roaming power. His stun can disengage only 1 opponent, slow mobility hence still vulnerable to jungler/skirmish. His ulti is usually used at a very long range to finish (execute) some opponent, but can not compare to AoE damage of Katarina, Swain or Karthus in a teamfight :) .


    An example of "better outtrade" is probably Mordekaiser. He can clear wave and deal more damage to the lane opponent (while his shield absorbes opponent dmg). But things will not get pretty when the jungler camp his lane.


    An example of "win lane, lose game" on top lane is Yorick. He has very strong laning phase against melee champions (and also many mages), but less influence in teamfight.
    Meanwhile Nasus doesn't have to win the lane, he just needs to survive and farms to a certain point (300 stacks?) to start to deal absurd damage and still tanky as hell.

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  31. I completely disagree with the fact hat veigar has been nerfed in the last patch. I consider it to be a strong buff as now veigar can double the amount of ap that he stacks, can bully AND can stack while poking.
    The nerf on his E just means that he can not be an initiator anymore, just wait until your tank engage and then just use your E and start the usual carriying process. His R nerf is to match the fact that he can now get 2 ap per Q shot with normal minions. (Sorry for any typos that may appear, i'm not english)

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  32. I also thought it's a nerf to Morde when reading the changes.
    Health regen reduction was silly nerf. Riven was nerfed like that not only because of self-shield, but also her burst damage and MOBILITY. Mordekaiser does not have an built-in escape and only relies on his shield to win the lane (still vulnerable to gank); now this health debuff is just making his laning phase worse.


    Perhaps because I am not a "main" Morde, just played him a few times so I don't know if other changes are enough a buff for him.
    Another champ I used to "main" is Tristana, but I just feel she is weaker than she was (although Riot and some ppl said she was "buffed" ). Still wonder if my skills are rusty as my main role is not ADC; or just my Tris was nerfed in disguise ?

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  33. I think the new Zilean is much stronger than the old one. I hope he gets moved up after his win rate starts increasing from 41%.

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  34. I main Udyr as jungler. Udyr should be ranked higher because he has great sustain in the jungle, can out-run for easy escapes, great low cooldown shield, easy and accurate ganks, and he can solo dragon at level 2 with W.

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  35. Does anybody know, Why Ahri has gone down 1 tier? there was no nerf on her, on buf on her counters, just wonder why :) Ty!

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  36. Yep... ELO god have mercy on those that get shrekt in lane by leona and a good AD Carry... everyone knows that feel :-S!

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  37. Probably people learning how to play against her. Also countered by Annie

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  38. Popularity doesn't affect solo que tier list.

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  39. I already asked it yesterday but all comments are deleted now, so:

    What do you think about Shyvana? Is she still a strong choice for soloQ in Silver? Also firstpicking?
    Is Fiora maybe a better choice?

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  40. BoltOfSpadesFebruary 28, 2015

    Well, Rito you killed 1 of my mains fo mid lane. Time to spam Vel'Koz and Galio now.

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  41. They are pretty different champions. Fiora should be built relatively squishy usually in the meta fiora playing, and shyvana more tanky. Shyvana is initiator with ult etc, a great initiate.... and tanking and dealing damages like AOE dmg especially.


    I just played a ranked (silver elo, not silver V btw) and i had shyvana top in my team. She did great and did nice dmg, we won that game. She is not bad definitely, decent.

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  42. Nice list bro ! :D Your website is becoming more and more awesome ! :D
    But i don't understand the tier 2 falling part. Why ahri, heimer and j4 are in the tier 2 falling ?
    It mights be a disfunctionment ^-^

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  43. TheTheoryIsYouFebruary 28, 2015

    You have veigar highlighted with no comment.

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  44. MasterOfMetalFebruary 28, 2015

    What no Morde love? not even any hate for the guy? i guess it doesn't really matter haha

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  45. MasterOfMetalFebruary 28, 2015

    ik i cri everytim, with the speed boost on w ad morde was actually possible now

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  46. Michael ArcherFebruary 28, 2015

    No more tier 1 heimer toplane?

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  47. For those who knew how to play Veigar, the amount of AP stacking is roughly the same, not a big difference (you are supposed to learn how to manage minions hp to last hit them with Q). His lategame burst has been greatly reduced by the ratio nerf. The only actual buff is the reduced CD on W, the rest is a big nerf.

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  48. disisdeathwingFebruary 28, 2015

    One does not question nightblue3

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  49. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    With the introduction of more high range mages into the top lane, Heimer is suffering for the same reasons as Teemo, he just doesn't have as much bullying potential and enemies have an easier time getting out of the harass range.

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  50. If Wukong was godtier top then everyone of my go-to champions would be got tier #1. What a time to be alive.

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  51. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    Thanks! So that's where the Ahri I put went...I lost track of where I put that for a bit. J4 and Heimer dropped as top laners, I'll be more clear. I appreciate the feedback!

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  52. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    Heimerdinger does counter most melee champions, but I thinik he has trouble against the rising number of longer range mages that are being selected top nowadays. His playrate's also very very low overall, so that win rate needs to be taken with a grain of salt.


    Pro players do love playing Veigar support, his utility with his event horizon was very high and he scaled off enemy AP. He's definitely very nerfed now though.

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  53. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    Wukong is a champion where as a top laner, you'll find yourself more often than not, saying to your team "I did find against him...you guys just fed the crap out of him". His game impact is simply very easy to follow up and highly beneficial.

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  54. Still morgana top as tier 3...I'm disappointed, expected you to move her a tier higher. Extremelly deadly teleports after 6, safe laner , pushes the first tower systematically, ridiculous scaling into late game with 1k Q and over 1.5k ults + she does well vs any melee and even most aps

    Also I think fizz top is tier 1. Simply because he beats half of the champions you have in your tier 1 in lane and can all in at 6 nearly all of them

    Last comment : Vi is too strong, no one should have access to this much power :p. I don't think any other jungler can walk in mid game and 1V1 the adc or apc then go back to farm the jungle. Nearly as strong as irelia once she has a tf finished

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  55. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    I think Morgana and Annie are both champions that are so strong right now in their current rendition that they can go many different places on the map and still be effective. That being said, there's essentially no data on it, so it's essentially theorycraft at this point.


    I suppose Morgana can theoretically do decently top lane, but I imagine that against most AD bruisers with sustained damage, her black shield is fairly ineffective. Additionally, with the length of the lane and the lack of gap closers and escapes, I don't see a good reason to put her top unless you have some sort of coordinated strategy going on.


    Mixed results on Fizz, I think he snowballs very hard if he gets ahead and can land his R, but gets pooped on early game against lane bullies.

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  56. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    I think it's okay. Pros like complaining about how bad he is, but I think it's just in comparison with the God Tier junglers, not so much with the entire game as a whole.

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  57. Michael ArcherFebruary 28, 2015

    With Azir and Kassadin being nerfed, the only popular champion heimer really has trouble dealing with is Lissandra, who's still fairly short ranged herself.

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  58. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    Being a challenger player that consistently dispenses advice on his stream, he has a disconnect between what's theoretically possible and probably easy for him to do and what everyone else can do.


    Let's put it this way, At Diamond 3 I'm currently sitting at the top 0.2% of the player base, and he's indisputably far and away better, than I am.

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  59. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    Azir and Kassadin were never a problem to begin with ;)

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  60. I was sure I posted this but can't see it anywhere? (maybe didn't get submitted). Anyway, can you explain why is vlad so high up there? Maybe I missed your explanation last couple patches about him if you had one. I'm not a vlad player and I rarely see him so I don't really know how good he is this meta

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  61. Can you talk about the 5.5 PBE tank buffs?

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  62. Urgod is on the rise, you will see

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  63. I feel sad for my donger :(

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  64. just wait, urgot will be godtier one day

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  65. Why is Zed only Tier 2 in Mid? Can someone explain?

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  66. saintshenanigansFebruary 28, 2015

    what put shaco in tier 1 jungle?

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  67. Contrary to what everyone thinks, Zed isn't good in SoloQ

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  68. Tsoi Chun YinFebruary 28, 2015

    Nerf Vi PLZ

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  69. Your "win lane, lose game" quote is fun to say, but rather anecdotal. Heimerdinger and Malzahar, two champs renowned for how effective and consistent they are in winning lane (yet less than stellar in team fights), have been in the top win rates for roughly a year. Yes, late game is key in this meta - but late game is harder to rely on mid lane when you're both behind. Its especially difficult you have to explain to your twam why the other mid laner is so fed.p, even its it just from a large cs lead.

    Additionally, jungle camping counters every single champ in league, so its hardley worth mentioning.

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  70. Yeah, but why?

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  71. Marquis JohnsonFebruary 28, 2015

    So do the Zilean and Annie changes mean absolutely nothing for their tier? Even with Annie being played so often in the lcs and he low skill cap

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  72. Talk about AP kog please!!! I love it and am finding success with it in yoloqueue

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  73. Yeah dude? Do pro's talk smack about naughtylus? Naughtylus is pretty great..... at top and JGL lmao

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  74. High skill cap, requires team follow-up, nerfed split power; he's not bad by any means, but he's nowhere near what everyone says. He can only delete one guy at the end of the day.

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  75. Don't worry, the nerfs are out on the PBE.

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  76. I disagree with Veigar's placement. I think he should be tier 3; a veigar who can land his new stun (while hard) is still a god. Just my 2 cents.

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  77. highlight hard

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  78. Uh are you sure? idiot? He is good. but needs immense skill

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  79. +1. This right here.Also Tier 2 is a great spot for him

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  80. I thought same. he is good yeah... but i just played ziggs against veigar and wow, veigar's burst dmg is lessened greatly. no more OP ultimate

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  81. NoxianSpidercrabFebruary 28, 2015

    Talent is not hitting the stun, it's dodging it. It doesn't matter where a "pro" veigar places it, it's still easily avoidable.

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  82. Josh ThurlowFebruary 28, 2015

    With how mobility seems to be, it'll be really difficult to land that stun.

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  83. Josh ThurlowFebruary 28, 2015

    So one discussion I'd like to have is something I've asked before, but a minor adjustment to what I'm asking. Meta vs Personal Favorite champs. Should you play meta champs more often or champs that you enjoy far more? But not taking in that you've "mastered" the champion you enjoy more, you just enjoy playing them.

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  84. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    The way Annie (and other supports) are played in LCS is very different from the way supports are played in solo queue.


    Zilean's changes were more of a tweak than an actual buff. They simply removed the ability to rewind chronoshift and changed it to scale with level instead. If anything, it's actually a nerf as they reduced the duration from 7 to 5. They also made his level 1~2 weaker as they nerfed his harass.

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  85. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    He's high for essentially the same reasons that he used to be high. Strong sustain and harass with good constant damage output for no mana. His numbers are more in line with expectations now so he's back to being good again.

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  86. NoxianSpidercrabFebruary 28, 2015

    I just cannot believe Riot thought nerfing Azir, Veigar, and Kassadin would put them in a "balanced" state. They're all terribly weak now (Urgot's no longer the weakest champions yey). Riot sounds like idiots saying "oh we didn't know". They probably overnerfed them on purpose to some certain extent.

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  87. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    Are you aiming to have fun or win more often? If that's the question you're asking, that's a personal decision to make.

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  88. Vinícius PimentelFebruary 28, 2015

    SSJ, I realized something in your tier lists. All champions that are in God Tier are nerfed after some patches like Kassadin, Ahri, Jarvan, Fiora, and others. What is the chance to Annie be nerfed??
    (Sorry by the bad english, I'm Brazillian)

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  89. NoxianSpidercrabFebruary 28, 2015

    SSJ. Whatever happened to mid Zilean? With the ratio and base damage being nerfed, as well as the bomb being a skillshot, Zilean doesn't seem to have much more success than he did before. He seems stronger support due to the stun. Though in mid lane, the stun is pretty useless if you don't have any consistent damage after it (which Zilean doesn't). I don't think it should be on the list anymore. Any thoughts?

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  90. Josh ThurlowFebruary 28, 2015

    I don't remember where the video is. But I guess what they did to Kassadin is a thing called "Olafing" a champion. Means that Riot makes a single nerf that completely decimates a champion's viability. This is done so they can build up the champion to be balanced, because nerf after nerf wasn't working.

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  91. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    I think that he should be on the list :)

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  92. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    I don't think my placement has to do with their getting nerfed, that being said I have no idea what the chances of Annie being nerfed are :P

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  93. and then theres the yasuo treatment: a bunch of minor nerfs that really dont hurt that bad and then they overshoot a certain nerf and the winrate drops like 5% . examples are lee sin yasuo and lucian

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  94. I think Volibear Jung needs a good shove upwards. The amount of damage he can put out while building as a full tank is insane. He has the tools to isolate and slow carries in the middle of a team fight, his roar can protect his teammates early game from minion damage while ganging, and also holds off minions while pushing down a turret. His chasing ability is very strong, and his passive makes him hard to kills, especially late game.

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  95. Sky SkylinezFebruary 28, 2015

    udyr is a mixed bag, having played Udyr and watched others play it, i can tell u first hand that he requires timing and Opponent mistakes, any decent player knows how to avoid udyr ganks early game and CC him, at late game he isn't a snowball carry compared to others

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  96. Sky SkylinezFebruary 28, 2015

    So far as a Top laner myself, i have seen Jax perform poorly in every game he was in or average, even when Late game, they werent The most impactful Champ on the field... So its not a Free Snowball champ many can counter him

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  97. Josh ThurlowFebruary 28, 2015

    So unless I aim and go master a champion I enjoy, then i should just do norms with them? Because it's for fun not winning?

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  98. climbing elo is possible no matter what champion you play. Skill/knowledge means a lot more than what champion you play, but some champs are more ideal. I don't think any champ is better to the point where you'll climb a whole tier just from picking one champ over another.

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  99. Luís Paulo da SilvaFebruary 28, 2015

    SSJSuntastic, the upgrades you made for the site is amazing, congrants for keeping it up! I have a suggestion on "Click to toggle champion movement history", you should put the lane with the champion when there's a change, so it won't get confusing sometimes.
    Ex: God Tier Falling: Wukong Top

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  100. Yeah and actually his passive is very strong in early game too, because people dont have enaugh burst in early game, most. that why. VoliBear is stronk, good in top too. but not best or sth

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  101. Needs immense skill = something not happening in bronze/silver. Maybe in gold, but by that time there are good kayles/annies that can decimate you. Zed becomes really really good once you get to Diamond where outprediction = gg, but the elos that this list are targeting make him "balanced" - he has the potential to do very well and can outduel almost anyone, but bronzies don't know how to use him in teamfights and do not know how to disengage after ulti...

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  102. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    I started thinking that halfway through, adding it in slowly =]

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  103. Yes, this is true, my friend.

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  104. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DFebruary 28, 2015

    volibear is a strong early game champ and no one should argue that,best early tank(at least one of the best),strong burst and strong ganks.
    The real problem here is the late game,what is gonna do voli in the lategame?
    His q is easily kiteable,his autos hurts for almost nothing even with ult and this lower his w effectiveness since he can't solo almost anyone,also w is single target so if you use it and mess up you're probably screwed.
    There's buffs incoming from him on the pbe but for now he's a tier 2 candidate

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  105. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DFebruary 28, 2015

    urgot wasn't the weakest champion for a while:elise,twitch,gragas,ecc... had a lower winrate than him

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  106. WOW? Is there buffs incoming? thanks for tha info, spaghetti. And good analysis also, I completely agree about his late game. DMG Drops off in late game. early game and some of mid game dmg is crazy.


    Same problem with cho gath; early game; Q is HARD to dodge because movement speed is low and dont maybe have ultimate/basic ability that gives you mobility (such as tristana Rocket Jump). But late game champions have much MS and all mobility abilities, it's easier to dodge stuff.

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  107. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DFebruary 28, 2015

    actually veigar is bad,stun is impossible to land without maybe placing it in a bush without vision or in a cced team(thinks wukong).q is skillshot..yeah it can kill 2 minions in a row but this is very higly situational and you can miss it in teamfight,w is useless without landing e and ultimate got nerfed in the early game(no more kill the enemy mage at level 6)

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  108. so if i play nerfadin i can climb elo eventually?

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  109. If you are more skilled than your opponents yes.

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  110. Gabriel Thomazine DamettoFebruary 28, 2015

    I main jax and Akali (however I don't play the ninja that often nowadays) and I focus farming with tp until I hit BOTRK or Trinity Force, and pretty much solo my enemy top laner. If it's an squishy one or an AA one (like fiora), I just need to hit 3 to solo them.


    In late game he's a demon, and can easily 3 hit the enemy carry and get away with ult/ Q ward.


    I'd consider him Tier 1

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  111. Shepard GordonFebruary 28, 2015

    What do you guys think about Vi jungle so far? I've been trying her out in SoloQ and have had very positive results.

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  112. She's OP so getting nerfs next patch.

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  113. He doesn't write the role if the movement is obvious (Wukong was god tier in only top), he does do it if it's not (like Nidalee support T3).

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  114. Lots of god tier champs are op so of course they get nerfed. :D

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  115. Guys, what do you think about Irelia top? Strong pick for SoloQ?

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  116. Well, she's god tier.

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  117. if you play donger you are possibly the worst kind of person

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  118. shes very strong. shes mostly based on ur knowledge of her damage and how she should play in each matchup.

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  119. How do you think the updates on the PBE for Nidalee will affect her?

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  120. KingoftheSocksFebruary 28, 2015

    The problem is Riot balances for Competitive and not for Solo Que, if you saw their win rates pre nerfs they hovered around the 50% area. Whilst the Veigar rework probably wasn't brought about because of competitive they did screw him over as soon as he found some sort of competitive viability.


    Azir and Kassadin are purely from what we see in the LCS, Azir has a decent late game and early game yes, and kassadin did have very good mobility, but their skill caps both kept them down from being monster picks in Solo Q.


    Unlike what they did with J4 and just decided to nerf one part of what made him good but a small margin they thought "To hell with it, nerf them to the ground"

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  121. KingoftheSocksFebruary 28, 2015

    Riot a word about jungle changes.


    You cannot balance the jungle like you balance laners simply because junglers have another hting to contest with that laners do not, the jungle itself.


    If you decide to nerf everything it will not bring about Jungle Diversity like you think it will, it will if anything lessen it to the champions who can get through the early clear.


    The problem isn't that the top tier champions are too strong but rather the low tier champions are too weak and there is a distinct difference. The low tier junglers struggle to clear the jungle and as such cannot do all the things a jungler should do be doing, be it ganking, counter jungling, vision control or just simply farming up. I understand that you are giving buff to tanks but what of the other roles. You complain that all we see are AD bruisers but with the way you've set up the jungle that's all we can play if we want to survive the early game because you took away the soft resets and increased machete upgrades.


    In short Riot if you actually want to achieve your goals that you set out in patch 4.20 of increasing jungle diversity and having junglers make meaningful choices about how they impact the game. Think about giving aid to those junglers in need rather than getting out the nerf hammer again

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  122. KingoftheSocksFebruary 28, 2015

    Zhonya's.

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  123. I agree. It seems broken to me that he has a strong laning phase as well as a strong team fight phase, compounded on his ability to assassinate squishy targets AND have a flexibility in how he builds. I was mostly posting that, however, to say that the state of the meta is beneficial to the champions that I like to play.

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  124. she is strong yes, but you have to understand that irelia = freelo like most people think, i think that applies to most champions, you still need skill and practice to carry like a god.

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  125. best zed counter xD

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  126. you dont like the donger?

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  127. calico jonesFebruary 28, 2015

    I still think he's effective in low elos. Kiting is almost non existent in Bronze/Silver. I've been playing him lately, and it's almost too easy to run at them with Q, slow them with E, and let your team blow up whoever the unlucky soul was to get caught. And he deals great damage with Trinity.

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  128. calico jonesFebruary 28, 2015

    So, what has kept Ziggs down? I remember when he was God Tier (once upon a time)

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  129. Once upon a patch he was nerfed

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  130. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DFebruary 28, 2015

    well traditional kiting is non existent but escaping from his q his veeery easy,katarina can shunpo away,annie can stun you,jinx can just throw granades and leona can peel you away from everyone,yeah this doesn't work in the early game but mid/late game even the worst player will try to run away from an angry giant bear and since champions with mobility are very popular is most likely you're gonna screw a lot of q cause "wtf those gays ran away please fight like men don't run"
    building trinity is viable but it could be a great risk since it cannot fix voli's late game problems at all and you waste 3703 gold in offensive stats
    voli is anyway great for the low elo but his awful late game kit always bring him away from the top tiers jungler picks atm

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  131. I think Toplane Sejuani needs to be mentioned somewhere!

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  132. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DFebruary 28, 2015

    i rarely play in the mid lane but i noticed that mana hungry champions are fallen in favor since athene's nerf,ziggs is a very mana intensive champion and morellonomicon cannot support this playstile at all and i always found myself running out of mana in crucial moments with just few q thrown.
    also his damage is very unreliable being a pure skillshot based,yeah they are easy to land and bla bla but still skillshots and can still miss no matter your skill,also being a low cc champs mean you have to hit at least 60% of your poke or you will be useless forever,also very weak to assassins cause of his slow and unreliable escape(well reliable if you can use it but still slow).
    Also permanerfed in the last season

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  133. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DFebruary 28, 2015

    actually rito is reworking the juggernaut enchantment and buffing some tanky jungler from bring back a bit of diversity

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  134. NotEnglish But Spaghetti :DFebruary 28, 2015

    i'd rather delete her,get hit by a random spammable high damage spear and die because yes...so stupid

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  135. Matias Ignacio Araneda ArayaFebruary 28, 2015

    she can outplay everybody and cant be outplayed.... really stupid champ :(

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  136. Luke CraddockFebruary 28, 2015

    This is utter crap I'm sorry but LeBlanc in tier 3? She is by far more useful than Annie and katarina. She has up to 2 snares, 2 gap closing jumps as well as a simple nuke combo in which you can wait for an enemy to walk past Q R W E = dead. Fight the power! LB for god tier.

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  137. SSJSuntasticFebruary 28, 2015

    I believe you're looking at leblanc top lane

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  138. can you keep Champion Explanations description for every god tier champion or at least link to the old post, i tried to load the last patch tier list but doesn't work, it redirect me to this page. Some links would be good too. :)

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  139. Luke CraddockFebruary 28, 2015

    Oh and I'm sorry but didn't I mention if you just want to have fun then armour pen boots + 3 x rod of ages + seraphs embrace + rabadons = 3500 health + 850 AP ... You find me another mid laner with that much health as well as that much dmg

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  140. Ziggs is my go-to-mid
    Last season, Ziggs could poke, clear, defend two lanes at the same time, and push.
    Now, Ziggs has mana problems and more cooldowns, so a Ziggs player needs to think wisely before doing something
    And those nerfs to Athene didn't help him at all

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  141. WaddledeeguyFebruary 28, 2015

    MPen boots?

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  142. Luke CraddockFebruary 28, 2015

    Sry M pen

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  143. Luke CraddockFebruary 28, 2015

    You can take her top as well, but there as I've said it is very hard to kill a mid laner who has 3.5k health as well as 850 AP... Ass well as a shield for 700 DMG when you get the seraphs embrace, upgraded form archangels staff

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  144. Matias Ignacio Araneda ArayaFebruary 28, 2015

    what description u want?

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  145. I personally agree on wukong god-tier, his fairly low cd hard engage ult is great, and his e>q combo is pretty good for harrass in lane or during skirmishes

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  146. SSJ put LB as a tier 2 mid...

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  147. Luke CraddockFebruary 28, 2015

    That's still not deserving of the power house she is

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  148. Well from the changes on PBE seem they want more dedicated tank jungler to enter and rise in the game...
    N.B: The new jungler item will provide +25% HP which will push player to build as tanky as they can and i cannot spit on RIOT for that move...how i hate when neither top or jungler cannot decide on taking responsability to tank for the team...

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  149. hey ssj can you give me some insight on why swain is god tier top lane?

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  150. Yes it is. tier 2. good.


    But one thing i agree with you, most times it's better than akali. a good LB. after the nerfs akali. but annie is too good imho

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  151. Sky SkylinezFebruary 28, 2015

    There are some Champions that break the Laning Rules, such as Irelia that has a crazy end game scale, both tanky and DPSing at the same time, Irelia can easily lose her lane and return to Destroy the rest of the map at a later period. so a well played Katarina can easily Feed and continue to Snowball all game including team fights..

    I saw a Great post on Heimdinger on a Forum by Alaskaneagle


    Heimerdinger I have played extensively and havce found;

    1.If you don't come close to double farming the enemies you won't be a threat.
    2.I they have a ranged champ they can out distance your turrets (except teemo)
    3.If they wait for the turret to target a mini it is easy to kill (they don't defend themselves)
    4.You are squishy through the entire game so without zonya's hourglass you die fast.
    5.Heimer doesn't really scale well so you need your full build way before anyone else

    Basically, Heimer is one of the funnest champs to play but second only to eve in being underpowered. If you are good you can use him but you can't use him against people who actually know how to play well.

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  152. Because the typical Melee champion, can't scrap with him post-6

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  153. Exevier EtcheverryFebruary 28, 2015

    I thought that Leblanc top is in the list because Leblanc AD with Trinity and Statikk.

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  154. GET ANNIE OUT OF GOD TIER (plz Q.Q she was my first main and i dont want riot to notice her)

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  155. Never heard of a leblanc player with such a strange build.

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  156. Wtf? Annie is Lissandra with better base damages but no escape. Their kits are quite similar if you haven't noticed. Annie's higher damage doesn't make her god tier mid at all, she gets shit on by anyone that outranges her (xerath? lol), which is most mid laners right now since assassins have been receiving nerfs, much of whom she was very powerful against, and her stun indicator for her cc makes it easy to counterplay as opposed to Lissandra's cc being instant.
    TL;DR Liss does most everything Annie does except with more safety. Moving up Annie support would make more sense not mid.

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  157. Well I'm surprised she was moving up as she should be getting weaker with all the assassin nerfs, and just when assassins are starting to drop in popularity fairly quickly she reaches god tier. I would say that less assassins on the field means she should be moving down not up. Annie was probably god tier material when assassins were popular but now I'd say she is lower in tier 1 maybe even tier 2.

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  158. id actually like to see if riot noticed this list. would be kinda cool

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  159. Charlie JamesFebruary 28, 2015

    oh yeah proxy singed is insane. they can a:ignore you,where you out cs them and become a late game monster , B try to kill you alone : chances are you will be too tanky and they will miss a lot of cs . C:kill you with jungler : congrats, mid and bot won due to ganks .

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  160. wtf zilean is really strong now, why hasn't he been moved D: That aoe stun is op :D

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  161. Tier 4 Mid: Veigar, Azir, Kassadin. I cri evry tim. ; _ ;

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  162. Do they actually stack

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  163. He luuuuv dis fat asss hawhawhawhawha snort*

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  164. Galio needs to be Tier 1 Mid. He destroys any AP mid and does very well against the AD ones. Plus his ult wins teamfights easy.

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  165. WhySoSerious?March 01, 2015

    Thank God! Shaco is finally tier 1! Oh and Riot is mentally retarded for nerfing kassadin.

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  166. PoroRengarMarch 01, 2015

    I'm starting to think someone is threatning Riot
    "you either nerf kassadin or I kill your family"

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  167. PoroRengarMarch 01, 2015

    I'm starting to think someone is threatning Riot
    "you either nerf kassadin or I kill your family'

    It's the only explanation

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  168. I don't understand, is Azir really that bad from the nerfs...? He seems to be relatively the same, just slightly less damage from q, and slightly less range from his soldiers, but other than that he still feels strong to me.

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  169. yeah but you're forgetting that if you do that your early game is about as good as urgot jungle. (exaggeration)

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  170. Exevier EtcheverryMarch 01, 2015

    If you add Malzahar top I think that would be right add Annie top.

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  171. yyeeessss someone else who believes in the annie top

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  172. Is viktor worth it if you put the time in to master him i feel like he's one of those vayne/lee sin kind of champs that are stupid good if you master them

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  173. You uploaded Top Lane Taric.
    God bless :')

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  174. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    nicki minaj is white confirmed

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  175. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    agreed, maybe a bit weaker due to xerath being xerath, but i do see him being played in the future

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  176. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    am i the only one happy now that veigar cant 100-0 me anymore?

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  177. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    what is so good about lissandra is that she can engage and disengage while dealing damage and being tanky. i think ssj prefers her being top?
    speaking of xerath, holy cow that guy.

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  178. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    they probably do, but dont comment.
    or do they?(dramatic music)

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  179. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    and pre 6

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  180. this is coming from someone who's only played viktor like 5 times during free week but all 5 times i carried really hard, he has p good mobility for the amount of poke he has not to mention his AOE stun that can auto win teamfights. At level 6 i don't think any mage besides maybe syndra has as much burst plus viktor is the only mage that can have 3 120+ ap items rn

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  181. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    i am a viktor main, his burst isnt amazing as it does require you to hit the w, which is pretty hard, but the aoe damage this guy does..,
    that item is hands down, the best one in the game.

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  182. really, i mean once you get lich bane the power transfer plus bond villain laser does a crap ton of damage

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  183. disisdeathwingMarch 01, 2015

    all you need is the 1000 gold e upgrade and chunk people's hp like by half.

    lich bane is just god, we do not speak the items name so that riot will nerf them.

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  184. http://www.lolking.net/champions/viktor#statistics

    1.83% popularity

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  185. The nerf is from Riot Games, it's not related to SSJ so long as he doesn't work for them.

    Yet, when the nerf bats (or even nerf hammers) strikes the champions in his top-tier list, that means his list has similar approach to Riot's in the way they evaluate the champion's strength...

    Don't ask me why Riot chose such "balance" strategy: nerf, nerf and nerf...
    www.nerfnow. com/comic/thumb/737/large

    (Blizzard and Valve seems to have more various balance changes, though)

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  186. Nicki MinajMarch 01, 2015

    honestly i think people should build phantom dancer over statik shyv on lucian graves and sivir. people wonder why they fall off late game. some would argue its their range but shyv falls off very hard late game against tanks. I mean just look at the math 10+ attack speed and 15+ crit is pretty huge.. since games last longer ur better off with PD. just my opinion tho. i feel its game changing for lucian especially since this turns him into a tank shredder

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  187. Josh ThurlowMarch 01, 2015

    I'm saying if I haven't mastered is it usually better to do meta or personal likes?

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  188. Josh ThurlowMarch 01, 2015

    You can always trade in your shiv for a PD as well. Some champs do very well with the shiv early.

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  189. Josh ThurlowMarch 01, 2015

    What makes Sivir a God Tier ADC?

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  190. Nicki MinajMarch 01, 2015

    the way i look at it is PD= stronger late game
    shiv=stronger mid game

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  191. Josh ThurlowMarch 01, 2015

    That's what I just said haha. Just used more words.

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  192. Nicki MinajMarch 01, 2015

    gold 1 sivir main here: she has amazing engage and disengage with her ult. she has some fairly high base damages in lane phase. her W gives good poke, waveclear and teamfights. her Q scales well too and if u land that on like 3 ppl its gonna hurt. and her spellshield is OP. her passive is very strong for chasing people too.
    her only con is 500 range. no really thats her only con

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  193. Diego Pais de LimaMarch 01, 2015

    Finally someone said it. Thank you...

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  194. Josh ThurlowMarch 01, 2015

    What ability do you start and which do you max first? Also, what is your usual build path?

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  195. Again... I find myself disagreeing with this list, specifically in terms of supports . _ .



    Sure, Blitzcrank has this amazing ability to isolate a target and quickly creating a 4 v 5, but it's often alot easier to screw up than to succeed. Nowhere near a god if you ask me.


    The real problem starts here...

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  196. Nicki MinajMarch 01, 2015

    Max Q>W>E
    Build: IE>PD>last whisper> BT > banshees or GA> elixir/upgrade trinkets.
    if ur wondering why i go LW before my lifesteal LW always gives more damage since it shreds through base armor too

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  197. Josh ThurlowMarch 01, 2015

    what ability do you start w/ at lvl 1?

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  198. Nicki MinajMarch 01, 2015

    Blitz is a monster in lane phase. and outside too. his only weakness is teamfights but even then he can isolate and prevent a tank from doing damage with his AOE silence and knockup. Blitz has solo Q utility(simple and straight forward). thresh has competitive utility (complex and needs knowledge from his teamates in order to execute effectively)
    a good analogy to this is gnar and sion: sion is simpler and doesnt need timing and communication to be effective as gnar does need some good synergy

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