May 31, 2013

Solo Queue Tier List Archive: Patch 3.7 (May 31, 2013)

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SEASON 3 - PATCH 3.7  SOLO QUEUE TIER LIST

Preface Chatter
It's a been two weeks since the release of Patch 3.7 and about time to update the tier list! This might be my new timeline, or I might move it up to a week after patch release. On the other hand, if I do that it won't be nearly as accurate. Leave a comment saying which one you'd prefer!

There's been a ton of changes this patch, but some aren't as important as others as you'll see below. I haven't discussed every movement below, so feel free to ask in the comments section if you want to know more!

As a recap, here are the changes in Patch 3.7:

Buffs: Akali, Cassiopeia, Karma, Nami, Nunu, Syndra
Nerfs: Caitlyn, Diana, Jarvan IV, Rammus, Zac, Zed
Tweaks: Elise, Miss Fortune, Rumble, Twisted Fate, Varus, Warwick

The Tier List

God Tier: 
Mid-Lane Gods: Twisted Fate, Rumble
Jungle Gods: Nautilus, Sejuani, Hecarim, Fiddlesticks, Rammus, Amumu,
AD Gods: Miss Fortune, Draven
Top Lane GodsRumble, Singed, Wukong
Support Gods:  Janna, Sona, Thresh

Tier 1:
Mid-LaneKassadin, Diana, Kha'Zix, Malzahar, Swain, Zyra, Kennen, Jayce, Zed, Cho'Gath
Jungle: ZacJarvan IV, Nasus, Cho'Gath, Kha'Zix, Evelynn, Diana, Lee Sin, Volibear, Maokai, Elise
AD Carry: Twitch, Varus, Ezreal, Caitlyn, Ashe
Top Lane: Kennen, Elise, Jayce, Renekton, Irelia, Lee Sin, Udyr
Support: SorakaNami, Blitzcrank, Taric,

Tier 2:
Mid-LaneKayle, Ryze, Talon, Vladimir, Elise, Lux, Anivia, Karthus, Nidalee, Katarina, Ahri, Evelynn, Orianna
JungleUdyr, Shen, Nocturne, Leona, Shaco, Vi, Xin Zhao, Zed, Warwick, Nunu, Malphite
AD Carry: Sivir, Vayne, Tristana, Kog'Maw, Graves
Top Lane: Jax, Kayle, Kha'Zix, Tryndamere, Riven, Vladimir, Teemo, Nasus, Shen, Cho'gath, Yorick, Zac, Darius, Volibear, Garen, Zed, Malphite
Support: Leona, Lulu, Nunu, Zyra

Tier 3:
Mid-LaneMorgana, Fizz, Akali, Pantheon, Mordekaiser, Cassiopeia, Brand, Galio, Xerath, Annie, Master Yi, Sion, Gragas, Viktor, Lulu, Fiddlesticks
JungleRiven, Pantheon, Dr. Mundo, Trundle, Skarner, Jax, Kayle, Darius
AD Carry: Quinn, Corki, Thresh
Top Lane:  Jarvan IV, Warwick, Xin Zhao, Pantheon, Nidalee, Akali, Galio, Talon, Trundle, Fiora, Dr. Mundo, Poppy
Support: Elise, Morgana, Nidalee, Lux

Tier 4:
Mid-Lane Lissandra, Syndra, Veigar, Kog'maw, Zilean, Leblanc, Tristana, Janna, Ziggs, Ezreal, Heimerdinger, Karma
Jungle: Shyvana, Rengar, Olaf, Master Yi (AD), Tryndamere, Gangplank, Fiora, Blitzcrank, Alistar
AD Carry: Urgot
Top Lane:  Rengar,Gangplank, Shyvana, Olaf
Support: Alistar, Kayle, Maokai, Yorick, Lissandra, Karma, Ashe, Zilean, Leblanc, Fiddlesticks, Ryze, Caitlyn

  • Champions in BOLD I will talk about shortly
  • Champions in Italics may be over/undervalued, but aren't/haven't played enough for me to make a better judgement.
  • Within each tier the champions are strongest from left to right, but within a tier each champion's strength is relatively close. This is especially true for Tiers 2 and 3 where these champions are ALL highly playable and player dependent on how strong they are in-game.

Champion Explanations
  • Amumu - Moved Amumu back up to God Tier, after nerfs on Zac, Amumu's viability as a top choice is much higher now. His ultimate as a whole will always be clutch the way it's designed, and his skillset as a whole is solid.
  • Diana - The nerfs to Diana didn't hurt her all that much in terms of laning, but it did make her jungle a little worse. The fact that she can chase down Ezreal also makes her a worthwhile addition at the moment.
  • Evelynn - Jungle Evelynn's been the talk of the town lately, and after seeing it in action, I can see why. She simply does a considerable amount of damge, is rather difficult to get away from, is difficult to burst down with her shields, and has an easy time ganking.
  • Ezreal - BLUE Ezreal is indeed a very strong build, and if he gets his core earlier than your AD carry gets theirs, he becomes a one man wrecking crew. Draven and Miss Fortune shut him down pretty hard though due to their ridiculous early to mid game even without items.
  • Janna - Janna is by far the most obnoxious support in the game right now, everything your support does, she does better. (Except heal).
  • Jarvan IV - Jarvan top wasn't included in the last update, but I've placed him in Tier 3. His sustain's not all that great, but his late game utility is decent. Either way, Wukong beats him in all regards top lane.
  • Karma - Karma...oh karma...she keeps getting buffed, but she's still not a good champion despite her redesign and repeateded buffs. 1v1 she's an absolute monster, and almost impossible to duel. Even 1v2 she's can be difficult to beat. But late game she's still item dependent like the old karma, which makes her a poor support. Meanwhile mid, her utility gets outclassed by many other AP carries. Meanwhile, the return of Kassadin to FOTM status absolutely destroys any chance for her to be picked up.
  • Kassadin - Hi Kassadin. Long time no see, can't say I've missed you. This guy is basically Singed in lane. He can lose his lane, fall behind in CS, and then somehow mid to late game destroy all your friends. There's a variety of ways to "counter" him in lane, but the only way to actually beat him is to counter him AND follow him when he roams. On the other hand, one cannot simply follow through rifts...
  • Lissandra - I've been seeing a decent amount of success with Lissandra top as opposed to Lissandra Mid, but she's still a little lackluster from what I can see. Her combo is pretty slick and can definitely turn the tides of a teamfight, but it seems like it still needs a *slight* numbers buff. The number of times I can count where enemy champions got away from my perfect combo with just a sliver of health is innumerable. I've also seen some people playing her as support. I'd give it a no.
  • Lux - Lux is great if you can land all her skillshots, and by building Athene's you definitely get your fair share of chances. She's still very unreliable in clutch situations, but her kiting ability is extremely good.
  • Maokai -Added Maokai support as requested. He's good in spam based lanes, for example if there's a Soraka, Sona, and Ezreal in the lane. The reason for this is that he can get as many passive procs as he likes while playing aggressively. The main issue with him is that his strongest source of damage is his saplings, which tends to push the lane. Everything he does, Leona does better. The only reason you'd play him is if the enemy team had someone like a Karthus or Anivia. (Or both)
  • Nami - The buffs to Nami have made her amazing in lane. I'd say she's definitely extremely viable as a support now, although Soraka's still very strong (albeit boring) as well, which is why Nami falls under her.
  • Nautilus - Nautilus' power is insane at the moment, he really needs a nerf.
  • Nunu - Big talk about the big changes on Nunu, and lots of people are saying he's a God Tier jungler at the moment. I'm not seeing it yet though, and I think he's above average at best. Convince me otherwise!
  • Soraka - Although she's extremely boring, she's also extremely effective...don't knock her out, even against a kill lane that armor buff can be a life-saver and often is.
  • Thresh - I think I went Thresh-crazy before...did I really put AD Thresh over Kog'maw? He's still good, but honestly I think I was a little biased at the time.
  • Tristana - Tristana's skillsets as a whole are good, and above average in fact. The problem with her is her jump. It's so buggy against common champions that it can't even be considered an escape in some games. I've seen games that have been lost after Singed flips Tristana in the air mid-jump just once. How can you rely on an AD carry that instead of escaping, her jump might just just knock herself up?
  • Tryndamere - AD Tryndamere is still the most annoying thing in the world...the fact that it's made a resurgence post-nerfs really upsets me, but what can you do...it's a solid split-pushing strategy that works.
  • Twisted Fate - His nerfs haven't really affected the reasons why he's OP much. On the other hand, I've seen a surprisingly small number of AD Twisted Fates considering the changes.
  • Wukong - Wukong is extremely powerful right now and still under the radar. Abuse his power as much as possible right now.
  • Zac: [Edit 5/31]: Did not realize Zac was taken off the list completely, I was actually going to move him down from the God tier jungle to the Tier 1 jungle. He's still very very strong. Fixed!
  • Zed - His nerfs were substantial, but he's still decently strong. He may get moved down again next patch.
Disclaimer:
  • The purpose of this list is for discussion and to provide a starting point for champion selection.
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124 comments:

  1. Tom MuschMay 31, 2013

    I must say that zac in the jungle is really underrated, as ap jungle item +spirit visage gives him a 40% cdr, and giant sustain , add mercurial boots and sunfire cape and u got a really tanky man if he focuses on grabbing his blops .

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  2. "Wukong - Wukong is extremely powerful right now and still under the radar. Abuse his power as much as possible right now."

    >>> Why so suddenly he gets the god tier pick? i don't get it...
    http://www.lolking.net/champions/monkeyking#statistics

    "Twisted Fate - His nerfs haven't really affected the reasons why he's OP much. On the other hand, I've seen a surprisingly small number of AD Twisted Fates considering the changes."

    >>> Agree with what you just said ! As a main TF player if some of you want an explanation more in depth of his change... here you go!
    The nerf on his ultimate is kinda legit to understand but i believe RIOT should focus on something else than TF...People believe the nerf on his Ultimate and E did hurt him a lot but in fact its the major visible nerf was on his W "Pick A Card" on the blue card which now is capped to a certain amount (ex: lvl5 skill > 150mana not less not more) before i really needed to abuse to get out of mana but now...it happen a lot even with Sheen...Hope the bat nerf gonna let him go now...

    "Tristana - Tristana's skillsets as a whole are good, and above average in fact. The problem with her is her jump. It's so buggy against common champions that it can't even be considered an escape in some games. I've seen games that have been lost after Singed flips Tristana in the air mid-jump just once. How can you rely on an AD carry that instead of escaping, her jump might just just knock herself up?"

    >>> SSJ really don't like Tristana :p
    You gave an example of her broken jump vs Singed...I think she really deserve the place of Ashe in Tier 1...Ashe has NO escape...Tristana has one even if in some situation! May i remind you its the same sort of jump mechanism as Kha'Zix which also can get canceled by a Singed ;)
    The only small little difference is that Tristana jump animation tend to be a bit slow on start!

    "Nautilus - Nautilus' power is insane at the moment, he really needs a nerf."



    >>> Couldn't agree more with you....Better nerf TF :p

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  4. He took a big nerf :)

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  5. JSilvaWPMay 31, 2013

    You forgot support Blitz ;)

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  6. Support: Soraka, Nami, Blitzcrank, Taric,

    Tier 1 Support

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  7. JSilvaWPMay 31, 2013

    Well, sry i really didnt saw that.


    Btw, Rumble is the BEST!

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  8. You should add top-lane Ryze to the list. Based on the performances of the Koreans with him, he would probably end up around tier 1.

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  9. In good hands! ;)

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  10. I don't see how Rumble is a god mid, I have never seen anyone using him mid.

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  11. Which platform you are playing on?

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  12. What do you mean by platform?

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  13. Seems like he loses to almost any mid.

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  15. EUW EUNA NA BR ?

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  16. Im more familiar to Rumble ST as well but i think he might be as great ST into MID.
    here is a gameplay commentary.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJeyF9mPHiw

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  18. disqus_uBgVcmBWpSMay 31, 2013

    Great list! Thank you for the update. I notice that you emboldened J4's name in tier 3 top lane but didn't discuss him in the explanation section.

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  19. I really don't understand how are brand, xerath, gragas and cass on tier 3, and how veigar is on tier 4. brand, xerath, gragas and cass bring outstanding amounts of AOE damage and some even sustained damage (cass and xerath), and gragas ult is one hell of a game changer. not only that, but veigar is one of the best anti-mages and anti-carries in the game, and can take out even off-tanks with no problems whatsoever, and he also has a 2.5 seconds AOE stun which is completly crazy (considering stuff like lissandra's ult is only 1.5 seconds and single target).

    can someone explain to me why are those champions in such a low tier?

    thanks :)

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  20. Sure Zac got nerfed, but he's definitely still viable in the jungle, no need to take him off the list altogether :-p


    I know you left him out by accident, but just letting you know. Otherwise, another really good looking list. I was wondering how soon people were going to realize how strong Wukong is. Hopefully, despite your list, people won't realize it and we can keep abusing it.

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  21. WHY NERF DIANA? AGAIN REALLY? WTF RIOT! WANNA DESTROY MY FKING MAIN? YOU NERF MY PREVIOUS MAIN, KAT NOW IS USELESS...

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  22. Sweetie BrellaMay 31, 2013

    What about top lane Nunu? I've seen him do well even after the last patch.

    Also, your description of Tier 2 feels somewhat lackluster. It seems purely negative, when it's supposed to be better than the tiers below. Just a thought.

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  23. kat is not useless at all. you only need to know how to play her right....

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  24. she does not feel as before D:

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  25. KurbanaaniMay 31, 2013

    Kat is still really strong. You just clearly don't play her the way she shines the most if you think shes useless.

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  26. SSJSuntasticMay 31, 2013

    I actually forgot to put him back on the list lol fixed!

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  27. SSJSuntasticMay 31, 2013

    Added zac back on! Thanks!

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  28. SSJSuntasticMay 31, 2013

    He's in there :)

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  29. Patrick David CroftsMay 31, 2013

    I think you are misinterpreting what it means, LoL is a fairly balanced game but sometimes it lends a little bit towards a certain champion which they always fix that is god tier. Tier 1 2 3 4 are small differences and while they are still viable when played right it is based on the current meta game and there effectiveness in competitive play where some champions are countered easier then others. I hope that makes sense :)

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  30. Karl Edward BayronMay 31, 2013

    Rumble still God Tier even after nerf? I thought the nerf was hard on him.

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  31. H0neyyBeeMay 31, 2013

    I honesty think that wukong is a bit overrated. His early game imo is very weak and he sports some of the weakest early game I've seen. He snowballs ridiculously hard though if he doesn't feed too hard than his late game is insane. If he grinds through his early game and doesn't feed then he turns into something very scary.

    Also I wouldn't like to try to convince you of the power of nunu. His mobility is insane and right now his map presence is something that your opponents better take into account. His cc is absolutely great as well, as his slow can be very devastating late game with such a short cd. His ult is also devastating as its damage is so strong if it finishes channeling and the slow synergizes so well with some other very strong champions i.e. wukong.
    I wouldn't necessarily say that nunu is god tier worthy but undoubtably at least tier 1.

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  32. Addison T. SmithMay 31, 2013

    The list seems to be missing Rumble Top. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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  33. So, you mean the tier of a certien champion is based not only on his effectivness but also his counter abilitys? Well, I think it does make some sense when you think about it. Most of the champions I talked about are very easly countered (mostly cass and veigar).
    Thanks for the explanation!

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  34. SSJSuntasticJune 01, 2013

    You're right, I should, will include in the next update! Thanks Frawki -

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  35. Stephen WagnerJune 01, 2013

    imo zac should have a mid lane placement, a few days ago I got forced into mid with zac do to the person calling mid going top. I wound up going 6-0-2 in that game and since then i've played a few more games with zac in the mid and i only ever came up short against teemo. I also checked online, and other people seem to be coming to this realisation as well.
    on a more minor note, I've also played zac in adc and support. granted with support zac i just slap on heal and count his "poke" and knockup as good. but building up his AP is decent for a carry. long story short: I honestly don't think zac can ever be considered "out of position" even if he does have those that are more obvious

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  36. * Seems like he wins to almost any mid.

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  37. I think Jayce belongs in the God tier at top because there's no really definite way of shutting him down. If you counter pick him he just plays safe with a few accelerated Q's. Then his jungler comes to kill you. How come he isn't in the God tier, and I would definitely say he belongs above where he is right because of his overpowered LANING phase. He does scale off in teamfights a little bit but he has great focus because of his Q (melee) and ridiculous movement speed in teamfights too. The only thing he lacks is built in sustain.

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  38. Just like TF Nerf :) STILL STRONK!

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  39. This post gave me cancer :D

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  40. I think it depends on the mid he's up against. Most of the mids have some way of giving him trouble, like Mordkaiser shuts him down badly. Also, Rammus was constantly ganking mid so I still don't see why he is God tier. I will give you TF though, still strong despite the blue card nerf.

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  41. Nah, I believe its loses.

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  42. I'm curious, why is Draven never used in tournaments? Is it because he has no escape? Please someone tell me. Thank you.

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  43. IamTerribleJune 01, 2013

    What about Akali? Can u talk about her change?

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  44. SSJSuntasticJune 01, 2013

    Top lane Nunu is okay, but with the recent changes to his consume I think Riot's made it clear that they'll keep moving him towards a jungling role.


    You're right about Tier 2 seeming lackluster, will update in the next patch!

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  45. SSJSuntasticJune 01, 2013

    I know Wildturtle has used Draven in more than one occasion in tournaments, he's just a more one-dimensional champion, so without kills he's not as effective in a teamfight as others.

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  46. Frank MengelJune 02, 2013

    why is malzahar tier 1??

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  47. KingNergalJune 02, 2013

    "Jayce is the best champ at the moment"- scarra
    I think thats all i have to say

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  48. KingNergalJune 02, 2013

    "jayce is the best champ at the moment"- scarra
    I think thats all I have to say

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  49. KurbanaaniJune 02, 2013

    No way, you're the cancer so doesen't change anything so meh.

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  50. ixtlanderJune 02, 2013

    wheres garen? he's definitely better than wukong o.O

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  51. Nicolas CageJune 02, 2013

    You talked about Lissandra as a top lane in your "Hero Explanations" but didn't place her in your tier list.


    Also, why is Gragas as low as he is on your list? He always struck me as a strong champion.

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  52. All of those champions have really inconsistent/unreliable damage and get dumpster-ed by assassins. That's why they aren't as good as other mid lane picks. Xerath has good range poke, Gragas has great disengage ult, Brand and Cassiopeia both have excellent damage combos and great sustained power, but all of them are weak in many matchups against current FOTM mid-lane champions.

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  53. Urgot got put in tier 4 because no one knows he has become a top laner. Once people realize that then you will see he deserves more than that. I've won every game with him in top because of his insane poke on all the good top laners. Enemy top laners are forced out of lane because they never have enough health to fight Urgot in top lane.

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  54. Well we can't really base champion statistics on win rate sometimes. Otherwise Ezreal would be garbage right now. Still 54% in normals and 52% in solo queue ranked is not half bad for Wukong!

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  55. In addition, Wukong totally can't fight Rumble or Singed or even Jayce. I guess it's matchup dependent, but these three are popular top laners right now. Wukong needs help from the jungler to help him through his abysmal early game. And he totally sucks in 1v2. Better bring out that Kennen...

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  56. Didn't see it this way but still i would like to know what suddenly makes Wukong God Tier! he wasnt even Tier 1 before you see :/

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  57. Well i see where you are getting at with Urgot but imagine there are only jungler playing as bruiser?
    There are many situations where only 1 bruiser or tank can turn your team into a sure defeat :/

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  58. His skillset is not optimal for SoloQ ofc he can be placed better in tierlist but not higher than Tier 2...

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  59. Tier 2 end (if you can't find a champion in the list do a CTRL+F and type your champ)
    He took massive nerf on his shield and passive previous patches.

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  60. Cause many mid lane champs took nerfs while malzahar got buffed! :)

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  61. She received few Tweaks/Nerfs made her go this down :(

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  62. Not everyone plays it like SoaZ :)

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  63. talked about the initial post not your "reply"
    "post" ≠ "reply"

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  64. Mordekaiser strength is that he mostly counter champs like Diana & Rumble for example is simply because those 2 are not ranged and make them very vulnerable to MK spells :)

    I think rammus is a problem for most mid champs! Rumble is not the problem here...
    TF is a really strong champion even against Rumble you have to know that anyway the weakeast point in Rumble Top or Mid will always be the 3-4 first lvls then he will start to snowball quiet a lot against whatever matchup...

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  65. You forgot to add AP mid soraka. Its actually powerful at early and late game but not a popular pick due to difficulty.

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  66. In my opinion Zac is stronger on the toplane because he can escape ganks like no other, has great sustain,a good gapcloser and cc for initiating if the jungler comes to gank the enemy...on the other hand Zac gets outshined by many junglers who either deal more damage than him or can gank better in general...his jump isn't that dangerous early game. Additionally, counterjungling can hurt him.

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  67. Ok, uh, besides win rate, I can't think of anything good. :D
    I'll try him out and see what I can get...

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  68. Hi. I wanna know why u have placed rumble as a god mid laner?
    I didnt know he was a strong midlaner...

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  69. That's not necessarily the case. You wouldn't always be with just one tank/bruiser. Leona is a popular support. If she supports and there is a bruiser jungler, there would be no problem

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  71. SSJSuntasticJune 04, 2013

    That's a good idea, I'll add in AP mid raka. Ever since the nerf to her Q range her mid lane hasn't been quite as amazing as it used to be though.

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  72. SSJSuntasticJune 04, 2013

    Hi Lyhne! Ever since the release of Seeker's armguard, Rumble's been a pretty deadly mid laner. After his nerfs he's not *quite* as strong mid, but he's still very good.

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  73. SSJSuntasticJune 04, 2013

    Mostly because of the nerfs to him.

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  75. Jérôme DorvalJune 04, 2013

    i think i found him in god tier

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  76. disqus_Rhql9V1d62June 04, 2013

    Galio deserves more love in the mid tier. His passive counters every AP Mage, then his slow, MS boost and taunt that nobody knows about ;) Also, where is he in the support role?

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  77. I think everyone knows about Galio but still...he is too situationnal...and far to be the best for SoloQ...

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  78. Karl Edward BayronJune 06, 2013

    Just tried Rumble. Yep, still God Tier. but it's harder to last hit now D:

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  79. why zilean is in tier 4 support....its so sad watching him sit in tier 4 : ((

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  80. KurbanaaniJune 06, 2013

    My bad :P

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  81. And where do you see him? O.o
    He is simply not made to support...if your adc isnt good and getting highly poked/harrased...too many times out-positioned....which happen many times! with 3/4 of the ADC you get in SoloQ! Here you got your answer to why! :)

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  82. DrTurtlesJune 06, 2013

    Lissandra I think should should at least be moved up to tier 3. I build her with max cdr items and having that ultimate on a 48 second cooldown is really dangerous, her kiting ability and escapes make me love her even more. Idk, I just think she is better than tier 4.

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  83. ShadowSectJune 06, 2013

    No AD Teemo?

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  84. disqus_jTmQ2btaRDJune 07, 2013

    Jungle Evelynn...My god that thing is crazy. I'm trying the new(or old?) burn build on her. Spirit of Elder Lizard/Liandry/Sunfire Cape/Boots are preference/Veigar hat/Mallet or Iceborn. It's really really good. I recommend anyone give it a try. 21/9/0 masteries. AP runes with either MP or AD marks. I prefer AD for faster jungle clear/

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  85. ShadowSectJune 07, 2013

    And Top Nunu, for that matter.

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  87. I would like to get your opinions on Yorick. He's a good lane bully, who can shut down some of the premere top laners right now. I know the lack of mobility makes him gank fodder early. But can somebody give a most experienced explanation on why he's only tier 2

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  88. Nicolas CageJune 09, 2013

    Yorick lacks late-game utility in a lot of respects. Your chances of winning lane are high, but you aren't going to be quite the threat late-game that many other top-lanes are.

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  89. Nicolas CageJune 09, 2013

    Galio is generally considered too item-dependent to be a good support by many.


    He definitely works, but he's not ideal for the role. Not to mention stacking MR in a lane where a good deal of the damage is likely to come from the ADC is also a bit of a problem. He works better as a top or a mid lane where he can effectively deal with certain champions, and get the feed he needs for a powerful late-game. While I'm here, I should mention that because of his shield, Galio works as a jungler as well, although he's gank-reliant because of his item dependency.

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  90. Nautilus vs Seju, who wins ? I heard Seju has the highest winrate on S3.

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  91. Nathan DowrickJune 10, 2013

    Why is Riven in tier 2?
    She seems like a solid tier 1 pick right now.
    Super high damage and mobility with the option to build tanky. Just seems pretty strong to me :P

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  92. Believe Kog'maw deserves a bump up to tier 1 or maybe even god tier, his win rate atm is massive and although he's slightly farm dependent he's got enough range and poke to withstand the laning phase, his mobility's poo but so's draven's and flash was invented for a reason. Not to mention if he survives the mid game his late game is arguably the strongest of any adc, only person that challenges is vayne but her lane is so hard it's incredibly hit and miss

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  93. I could say same about Darius, his q poking is realy good from the early game

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  94. Addison T. SmithJune 11, 2013

    Top Lane Twisted Fate?

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  95. Do you think that the buff to Nashor's Tooth will make Diana higher on the tier?

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  96. Except Nidalee fucks his shit up.

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  97. Yolo SwagJune 12, 2013

    Could you explain why you put Lulu in Tier 2, even behind Soraka and Taric? I think she deserves at minimum Tier 1, or God Tier.

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  98. Andrew MayerJune 12, 2013

    What about support rammus, pantheon? I've seen that a lot lately also rumble shouldn't be in Gtier maybe t3? I shut him down bad since nerf and he never gets back in.

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  99. Andrew MayerJune 12, 2013

    While Lulu is good if she falls off she is hard to get back up, Taric and Soraka have better utility when down. Taric can always go full on tank and Raka has global heal. Makes sense imo

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  100. Andrew MayerJune 12, 2013

    On another note I believe Tryndamere top should be G tier, because no matter how far he falls he will always fucking split push and be a little **** sucker

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  101. Yolo SwagJune 12, 2013

    Lulu's kit is amazing. Her harass in lane is phenomenal with her Q + passive and her ult is teamfight changing and can completely turn around ganks. Why is she considered worse now, besides the reason you mentioned? (which shouldn't really turn anyone off from playing her) I noticed she's declined in populatarity after the infinitesimal nerf to the mana costs in her Q and her poor win rate in the LCS.

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  102. CandypandaJune 14, 2013

    Why dafuq draven is in god tier?He is piece of shit..

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  103. best criticize 2013! R.I.P now

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  104. not as efficient as midlane + he can meet really hard matchups which will totaly reboot him...

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  105. https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1011069_535369543165744_1897251605_n.jpg
    Seem so!

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  106. Lothar SchrammJune 14, 2013

    How come no one ever plays Swain? Yet you put him in Tier 1 list, are people underestimating him? I was considering buying him but I'm afraid he's not viable right now. :/

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  107. With the recent changes to Kha'zix where will he turn out? His poke has been severely damaged but his all-ins improved, can see a drop to tier 2 mid-lane

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  108. When's the next one coming out? If you need help let me know :-)

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  109. New one comes out two weeks after patch.

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  110. Bronze V Draven main detected.

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  111. I'd buy him just for the fact that he's awesome, I've never seen a Swain mid, so I'm not sure why he's in tier 1.

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  112. Could there be a place for Shen support on here?


    I was in a game with one recently. He has his Ult and his Mark thingy and uh...


    I dunno, I just saw one in a game.

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  113. Well, I 2v1'd against a Renekton and Jax as Trundle and won top lane. Does that mean that we should put Trundle in god tier, or Renekton/Jax in tier 4? I've seen some good Rumbles who can win their lane.

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  114. Worst list ever :( Graves T3 and MF god ??
    TF god and Brand T3 Veigar t4 ??
    Zilean and Alistar trash ?? WTF

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  115. Steven Paul ValeckJune 16, 2013

    no sir darius is easly countered u go lol u cannt face kite so many champions own you and if i dont own you i buy a rylais or mallet then own you

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  116. Hit ur self with an hammer on the head plz...

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  117. Not adequate :/

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  118. You crack me up. I'm definitely not the best player out there but Darius is not OP.

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  119. counter jayce on top ? easy . Renekton , Jax , yorick or even "Bush-ren " can do the job .

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  120. Xavier Hill WilsonJune 18, 2013

    Fizz FTW troll poll

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  121. Nathan DowrickJune 18, 2013

    What's your opinion on Orianna? Can we expect any movement in the tier list for her? Why/Why not?

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  122. Somebody ElseJune 18, 2013

    I don't suppose anyone could point me in the direction of a good starting champion (preferably one that specializes in AD) who uses melee? I'm new to the game and was using Fiora for a while, only to come here and find out she's near the bottom of the pack. I don't mind a bit of a learning curve (I expect one, in fact, because Fiora is a bit brain-dead) and I'd like someone who'd be effective to main even when I reach level 30.

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