Feb 11, 2013

2013 Hero Tier List - Solo Queue - Season 3 Patch Updated (February #2)

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SEASON 3 - SEASON 3 PATCH SOLO QUEUE TIER LIST #2

Preface Chatter
Rolling out a new tier list before a new patch is released?! What's this?! Well I've been solo queuing a LOT lately and started making a list of heroes I wanted to move around...it got to be quite a number, so I figure I should roll out a new tier list to accommodate the changes I'd like to make sooner rather than later =]

Check it out below!

(Once again, the reason why the old lists redirect to this one isn't to hide what changes I've made, it's just because Google updates a little slow, so it's better if we're all on the same page for discussion purposes!)

The Tier List
Tier 1: Amumu, Rumble, Singed, Twisted Fate, Miss Fortune, Taric, Xin Zhao, Shaco, Elise, Katarina, Fiddlesticks, Zyra, Nidalee, Jax, Shen, Malphite, Darius, Ezreal, Kha'Zix, Lee Sin, Blitzcrank, Sona, Cho'gath, Karthus, Graves, Kayle, Evelynn, Garen

Tier 2: Caitlyn, Nocturne, Orianna, Talon, Lux, Lulu, Kassadin, Draven, Maokai, Ryze, Akali, Pantheon, Jarvan IV, Diana, Jayce, Master Yi, Twitch, Wukong, Irelia, Renekton,  ZedHecarimRiven, Olaf, Cassiopeia, Ahri, Morgana, Nautilus, Vladimir, Thresh, Kennen, Leona, Janna, Dr. Mundo, Anivia, Annie

Tier 3: Vi, Sivir, SyndraCorki, Ashe, Vayne, Mordekaiser, Teemo, Rammus, Soraka, Skarner, Nunu, Galio, Kog'Maw, Brand, Gragas, Malzahar, Varus, Shyvana, Warwick, Yorick, Tristana, Fizz, Swain, Zilean, Xerath, Alistar

Tier 4: Veigar, Nasus, Sejuani, Nami, Viktor, Sion, Rengar, Gangplank, Urgot, Udyr, Heimerdinger, Ziggs, Trundle, Volibear, Tryndamere, Poppy, Leblanc, Fiora, Karma
  • Heroes in BOLD I will talk about shortly
  • Heroes in Italics may be over/undervalued, but aren't/haven't played enough for me to make a better judgement.
  • Within each tier the champions are strongest from left to right, but within a tier each champion's strength is relatively close. This is especially true for Tiers 2 and 3 where these heroes are ALL highly playable and player dependent on how strong they are in-game.

Hero Explanations 
  • Alistar - Poor Alistar, his range nerf on his headbutt really hurt him hard, in the extra time it takes for him to walk up, he gets shot down fast. This combined with the fact that very few people were good at him to begin with means he's very weak at the moment.
  • Corki - Don't get me wrong, an AD carry is still an AD carry and can carry the game, it's just that compared to other AD carries he just seems a little lack-luster at the moment.
  • Garen - As some of you have mentioned, he's an absolute monster right now with his new W (I'm late to the party I know). This combined with the reinstatement of crit on his spin gives him easy kills all day long.
  • Hecarim - Spirit of the Elder Lizard makes him ridiculously strong right now with his short cooldown on his Q, and he may actually get moved up further in the next update.
  • Jarvan IV - It's not just the Lunar skin that makes him stronger looking, he's actually very strong right now.
  • Master Yi - The nerfs on his heal hurt him a bit, but his damage is still there, and he can still snowball very hard. He may be moved down further, but he seems like he's still very strong in solo queue.
  • Nasus - When his PBE buffs go live I suspect he'll be moved up, but I'm not sure how much. 
  • Nunu - The nerfs to him hurt a ton...he's just not the Yeti he used to be. 
  • Olaf - The nerfs to him last patch hurt much more than I expected. I think he's still playable, but nowhere near the strength he was before.
  • Orianna - I might be biased playing at a higher bracket right now, but her shield + ult combo on champions like Maokai and Vi are super sick, and the spammability of her skills gives her an edge over most other APs in a teamfight.
  • Riven - She's okay, but weak at the moment compared to a lot of other champions, especially with everyone running Warmogs.
  • Syndra - Been seeing some good Syndras lately, but due to her difficulty, she's definitely suffering in win % at most Elos. I've moved her up for her potential though.
  • Taric - If I could feel confident putting a support at the top of Tier 1 I would, but some of you would definitely leave on sight. He's simply outrageous right now.
  • Wukong - Although he does suffer top lane against a lot of match-ups, mid-lane Wukong is extremely strong against assassins and squishy APs.
  • Xin Zhao - Not much more to say from last time, Xin Zhao is a monster.
  • Zed - Starting to see some good Zeds now, and he's definitely viable. His late game is a little poor if he isn't fed though. 
Disclaimer:
  • The purpose of this list is for discussion and to provide a starting point for hero selection.



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39 comments:

  1. seeing Syndra move up makes me happy. I know she can have trouble with some of the higher ranged mid champs, but her long range stun and strong burst have lots of potential for a skilled player.

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  2. SSJSuntasticFebruary 12, 2013

    Hi Jarrett! Yeah, there are a lot of people dedicated to "making her work", and I guess it's getting there!

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  3. I think Hecarim should definitely be moved up.

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  4. SSJSuntasticFebruary 12, 2013

    Hey Roy, you're right, I actually missed Hecarim, he was one of the champions I meant to move up this update as well. ~ Fixed!

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  5. Previous comments has been deleted on your Tier List #1 couldnt read what you said about Tristana in general you talk about champs getting buffed and nerf and you didnt mention yet anything around her mana cost buff on Q and Damage on E or R...

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  6. Found your reply:
    "Hi David, Tristana's just simply not as safe mid-game in these aggressive lane match-ups. To maximize her kill potential, she has to put herself at high risk, which opens her up to counter-play."

    I kinda agree with you for the laning phase but still she has "rocket jump" which is great escape in case early lvl gank and her range increase trough the game i just think she deserves Tier2 its kinda like Syndra just because almost nobody pick it and we always sees the same picks over and over...
    Anyway nice Tier List keep it up.

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  7. Wow, whenever I'm thinking: Hey I could really use a new lol tier list, I load up nerfplz and Boom, there is a new update ;) Love it! What's up with Vi tho, she is useless in lane but a very nice jungler with a crazy midgame. Tier 3 is kinda harsh...
    Also, what do you think about jungle Elise? Also tier 1 or waste of her bully power?
    Cheers,
    Alex

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  8. Orianna to me is like, in the hands of a good player nr1 spot in tier1, but with a bad/decent player she is like tier3, totaly agree with moving Nocturne to tier2 he is to snowbally,pretty much only thing i dont agree with is Sejuani, she is tier1 material and just like with AP Kayle she is just gonna be played and dominated by a pro soon and everyone will say "wtf she is op"

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  9. Vladimir* :P

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  10. Ehm...Shaco still Tier 1? Didn't they nerf him pretty hard?

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  11. SSJSuntasticFebruary 12, 2013

    Thanks David! She might get moved up in the future, but at the moment because of how slow her rocket jump is she can also get outplayed very easily when she uses it against most FOTM ad carries like Graves and Ezreal.

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  12. SSJSuntasticFebruary 12, 2013

    Haha Alex, I aim to please! Well the thing with Vi is,it might be because a lot of people are still getting used to her, so right now she's not as strong as she could be. I agree that her skillset gives her a ton of potential, and you might very well see her move up in the next update.

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  13. SSJSuntasticFebruary 12, 2013

    Alexander, I feel the same way about Orianna, which is why she keeps fluctuating so much despite nothing really changing about her. Sejuani might be a secret OP champion, we'll see :P

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  14. SSJSuntasticFebruary 12, 2013

    I think I do that every time...=x

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  15. agree with Alex about Vi, she is tier1 or 2 jungler for sure, most likely tier 1, and i do not belive she sux in lane

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  16. TF so high? AP or AD?

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  17. Thanks for replying to me :)
    I sincerely would agree with you before Ezreal nerf...he is decreasing in his popularity atm as for his win rate there are a diff of 2% on winrate between Tristana & Ezreal...
    About her rocket jump Tristana isn't something i play often...but as far as i know her rocketjump isn't a starter, its an escape skill or a secure kill!
    Also, just like Khazix (E) and Master Yi "Alpha Strike" whenever you make a kill and its on CD it refresh...I think if you take that from Khazix & Master Yi away they would not be so highly rated :)

    Anyway this is just a personal point of view i just think like you said it just need time. :)

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  18. His E got nerfed only previous patch which turn his E Spell to slow less than before (Before 35% Now 20%) something like this if i do remember correctly.

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  19. I trained a lot on VI since she was out i think you did well you place her T3 since she is a champion which works on the "snowball"...
    Her Q offer nice CC her W decrease the enemy armor on 3rd hit and the best still her ultimate which is a great to catch the AP or AD enemy carry in the middle of the team fight and knock him down for 2 good seconds!
    But if you kinda failed in your ganks early...She will not be piltover finest anymore :-P

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  20. Agree with you!
    In soloQ i main TF mid and only once i faced a great Orianna player which even made me thought "Is Orianna a TF counter?" but then after plenty of matchup with Orianna i found my answer on the end > "Nein!" ^^
    I think she can totally be a Tier1 but not in SoloQ unfortunately...

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  21. Well if you aim to please, I think you achieve that goal pretty well :)
    Don't want to pester ya but whats your opinion on jungle Elise?

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  22. SSJSuntasticFebruary 12, 2013

    I can't say too much about elise jungle since I don't see it much. However, I believe that like khazix, she's much stronger in lane.

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  23. TF is obviously tier1, super high winrates always and well one of the best AP mids in the game for sure no doubt, both for competative play and soloQ

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  24. Eugene JohnsonFebruary 12, 2013

    In relation to what Alex asked earlier, what about Shaco's Q range being nerfed? I have found that he is not nearly as strong a ganker/duelist as he used to be. Also, is Elise tier 1 as a jungler? Thanks as always for your research and hard work!

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  25. <3 you remember me

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  26. Thanks for the feedback man.

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  27. Ssj/Richard/Author thinks she is better in lane and I agree with him, she is just such a bully in lane. But I think she's a very good jungler to, she has sustain, her spiders can tank for her and her ganks are nice too with gap closers and DAT stun. Also, she is so powerful as a first pick cuz she can switch lanes if she doesn't like the matchups

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  28. thanks! I always look forward to reading your updates

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  29. Except Yorick, i don't see how problematic your lane can get its easy matchups or lane even with most of matchups which mean if you loose you got to look at yourself as Elise player and look where you did go wrong...

    If you don't trust me just check the opinion of 2 Top Elo players. :)
    http://www.lolking.net/guides/list.php?champion=elise

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  30. Rumor say Morello is going to nerf > Xin Vi & Jarv...(I love useless nerfs <3)

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  31. also Q ranged nerfed hard!! but he is still a good one

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  32. agree a lot, but Vi is at least tier 2!! in mid elo definetly in tier 1.


    build her randiuns/frozen mallet, eldar lizard, extremly tanky with awesome burst and dps. tank shredder, great cc to initiate, great ganks(lvl2 ganks are insane)....
    why is she tier 3? i also disagree on rammus not viable. hard cc and with aoe ulti+liandras epic dmg with full tank build

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  33. LOL kog and vi t3 learn to play you dumb fucking retard.

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  34. Vi is one of the best junglers right now

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  35. Where would you place AP nidalee? I presume the ranking in the tier list is for her AD build.

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  36. AllahModeEngageFebruary 20, 2013

    Pah viktor T4 that is bullshit have you seen a good viktor being played?

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